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Theressa



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:27 am    Post subject: The law of attraction Reply with quote

Hi All,

I have some questions maybe some of you could help me understand about the "LAW OF ATTRACTION"

Okay so I visualise I want my bus to come on time but it doesn't. Then I realise this experience was teaching me about trust and patience. Infact on the same day many experiences were about TRUST and patience. But, I visualised I wanted my bus to come and affirmed it would come.

So if we visualise something does it mean its meant to happen? I mean we can't control others so for example I cannot control the bus driver.

I've affirmed many times for things and visualised and I have gotten them. My intuition has guided me to them. But, other things haven't happened.

Isn't it about the highest good and not simply that we can say I want that or that and get it? I mean like a spoilt child.

Can anyone explain this law of attraction to me and others here?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:43 pm    Post subject: The law of attraction Reply with quote

Hi Theressa,

Yes, the law of attraction is about asking for/putting forth thoughts of that which you wish for. It however, does need to be in line with the greater good, meaning you can't wish for someone to die. However where most people get tripped up is they put out thoughts/ask for what they want and then they put expectations on their wish coming true. They need it to come true to be happy or they subconsciously thwart it by worring because at the back of their mind they are expecting it not to happen. To truly benefit from the law of attraction you ask for what you want and let go of needing or expecting a specific outcome. Basically let what happens happen because what happens happens in keeping with what is best for all.

Sincerely,
Michelle
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aLx



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have this theory that i want to share...

you said you "wanted" the bus to come, and it didnt. this is the message you are sending to the universe " i want the bus to come now" so the universe replied " ok you want the bus to come". all you got is the "want", which is what you asked for. your thoughts are powerful, when you want to just "want", you will attract it wanting.

the difference is in the state of mind. you just want something to happen and you send this message to the universe, but all the masters are sure that the "bus will come". they may even thank in advance.

i believe this is what is the difference of jesus christ and other masters, they can create what we call miracles. because they had no doubts, they dont just affirm they are sure and lastly they sends the right message out there.

just my thoughts and unproven..

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Theressa



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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:08 pm    Post subject: The Law of Attraction Reply with quote

Hi Alx,

Yes I understand I did not affirm in the present as if it had already come about.

E.g I have self esteem so it is amen
I am worthy
The bus is here now.

I guess you are right I wouldn't imagine it was possible for the bus to just be there right as I asked it to be so my doubts based on what I have learnt would cancel out my affirmation.

My daughter however, found her tie straightaway when she asked for it. I have my tie and it was infront of the so the law does work on belief.

Gee thanks that is a good reminder. The Our Father says "Thy will be done" "Give us our daily bread." This shows that the prayer expects and has faith that the daily bread will be there. He doesn't say can I have my daily bread he says you give us our daily bread. Which is a statement not a question. URM interesting...

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the universe is like a BIG copying machine, responding our thoughts. when you thought " i want the bus to come", isnt it that you got what you asked for? the bus didnt come, but you did want it to.

as it was said, faith as small as a mustard seed can move mountains. so affirmation must need faith and certainty. which is very hard for us to do with our very logical and inquisitive brains.

i cant imagine how much faith jesus and other masters have. they even thanked in advanced. not just to fool themselves, but they are really 100% sure it is already done.

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Theressa



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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: Law of attraction Reply with quote

Hi Alx,

Urm yes masters do have faith.

If I think over my life the universe never failed to bring me what I needed to help me learn and grow. I can have faith that whatever, I need will materialise. so yes its win win. Whether I get what I want who knows.

On the particular day many experiences happened and they all taught me about patience and trust. That is what I need to learn about so that is what I got. My thoughts on some level was that things take time to materialise and thus, that is what I got.

The biggest lesson is to see the relationship between my thoughts and my experiences. Asking why do I think that ... it is really true?

For example, I have many skills and talents that I can apply to many situations and tasks. I can see them and have faith because I can picture the results I got from applying them in the past. Now all I need to do is picture them applied in another scenario.

If I affirm "I have the job for my highest good" but the interviews are not until next week then I can't have it now can I?

Urm this is interesting stuff..... Any more insights?

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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i believe that all that has happened and will happen to us are attracted by us in some sense by our thoughts and our souls higher agenda, which we might have no knowledge of.

our thoughts are powerful indeed, but some things should come in its proper time. like it is in some kind of a plan to serve our higher agenda, our soul's agenda.

this kind of thoughts will hepl us to realize that things dont happens to us, we make it happen. we are responsible for it and is the one making it. as they say, we are the creator of our reality.

so we might wonder why things didnt seem to happen as we envisioned it to be, as we affirmed it to be.

i hope i am making sense. but try to see everything as a perfect plan, everything in its perfect timing. as how we see it that matters.
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Spirit Ayastigi



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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

theressa,

your question - So if we visualise something does it mean its meant to happen? I mean we can't control

others so for example I cannot control the bus driver.

supposedly Jesus said (nothing is impossible unto you) I take this very literal by the way,
and there are many statements in the bible that tell us we get what we want. Also I have read many

other books that tell us the same thing. Visualizations and meditations tell me the same. We get what

we want and there are no limits.

Controlling the bus driver is definitly possible, here is my experiences... I do not like to be

tailgated at all, drives me up the wall. i read in a book to send this person Love and they will back

off from driving so close. I have been doing this for about 15 years now and it does work, sometimes it

works so well that they back off immediately after me sending them Love, sometimes it takes just a

little bit longer. Even in heavy traffic in town where people are normally driving very close anyway.

But the point is it does work and works very well. So one could say that I am controlling the other

driver by sending Love to them and they do what i want. And i have many other stories like this. Also,

It is very possible to control people without sending them Love, it can be done in a variety of ways,

but sending Love feels the absolute best. The reason i am saying in other ways is because, If the law

of cause and effect is true and the universe does not judge (keyword judge) then ALL things are

possible no matter what spirit they come from. Love is just the best feeling there is and focusing on

that feels better to us than any other way.
If we are to get whatever we want, how does this work... Lets say there is a golf tournament, and

there are two people who ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE they are going to win, ( they have the faith as large as

the mustard seed) We are not defining win but in only one way, they both believe they are going to win

the green jacket.( whatever golf tournament that is) There is not going to be a tie. They both believe

they win the game with the least shots, and so on. the game is played and at the end of that game who

actually wins? Do they both win because they both believe and all of their existence will show this,
Do they both stand in the winners circle and recieve the green jacket, in the next days headlines do

they both see there name as winning the golf tournament, do they both receive a check, will they hear

their names being mentioned in years to come,the broadcast of past winners of the green jacket?
i believe that we can have so much power, for lack of a better term at this point, that our own

existence can change in an instant. If you watch the movie with Kevin Costner... Field of dreams... his

existence, at different times in the movie, changed in an instant and all of his surroundings changed

with him. On one level there really is no time, as in past and future... only now... then this could be

the explanation you need to understand why the bus wasnt on time.

Anyway, after all of my years of studying, i am to the point that absolutely everything is true and

absolutely everything is false. What is true for one is not true for another. Perception is key and

there are many keys. Love feels much better than any other emotion, feeling, or perception. And that

this relisation leaves the power within us to choose and to choose wisely the choice of Love and

Respect for all life. thats my two cents worth, well, maybe its my dimes worth, inflation.

Spirit Ayastigi
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that was a very nice reply spirit ayastagi. i can affirm in the effect of sending others the energy of love. it also always worked for me in any situations.

btw, we welcome you here...


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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I concur, very nicely put Spirit. I will add that you are correct that there is no judgment in regards to our actions. There are only reactions. So yes, though sending someone love does feel good it is the reaction of getting love back that gets us favorable results. Whereas if we send anger and hate it is probable that a confrontation will arise along with our feeling bad. But again very good explaination.

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Spirit Ayastigi



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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TY Michelle,

The interesting thing for me is that now we know we are unlimited creators, what do we do now. There is so much it seems. I do like Dan Millman's explanation of this in... Way of the peaceful warrior... "Do what you want and do what you will, and just be happy for no apparent reason, just do it"....

Take care Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Spirit,

That was a very good book. For me this road of discovery has felt very liberating. The best way I can describe it is that it feels like life is full of potential. All the time not just when something new is starting for me. And yet with all this potential I no longer feel the need to have to be or do anything to define who I am. This has kind of led me to not be so sure what my next move will be but I am for sure enjoying the moment for no apparent reason.

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Theressa



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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:47 pm    Post subject: Law of attraction Reply with quote

Hi Spirit,

So who won the green jacket?

Can you guys and gals help me to understand this.

I visualised the job and I saw myself in every aspect suceeding but I still did not get the job.

So how does this work?

I need it explained very specifically because I am so so confussed?

Anyone explain it more slowly to me?

Thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 12:00 am    Post subject: Law of Attraction Reply with quote

Hi Theressa,

The reason so many people get discouraged when it comes to positive visualizations is because it doesn't always work. Theoretically it is suppose to but there are any number of reasons why it might not. First off though you may be visualizing positive results there may be a little doubt somewhere in your subconscious that is keeping it from occurring. Or there might be a little fear that if it did come true would it work or not work out the way you had hoped. You might not even be aware of these thoughts and there are so many layers that it can be difficult to work through. The best way to deal with this is to always try and center yourself when you visualize. This will get you in the best most unobstructed state of mind. If you ever find yourself falling back into doubt recenter yourself and do the visualization again. And most importantly let go of any expectations of the wish ever coming true. This is key because if you put too much importance on it coming true then there is a strong possibility it won't come true. The reason is when we put expectations on things we are essentially judging what the outcome should be instead of letting the outcome be whatever it is suppose to be for what is best for all concerned. Because the only way the universe can maintain balance is by doing what is best for all concerned. Finally if you have done unconditioned centered visualizations and it still doesn't come true then it may just be that whatever it is you are wishing for is not in your best interests at this time. This is especially true when it comes to jobs. The job you were hoping for may not be right for you or maybe you aren't suppose to leave your current job now. Eventhough we may not remember we do devise sort of a rough game plan before we are born. Some events in our life are preplanned and maybe this job you are hoping for isn't in that plan. Or maybe it is but just not with the first company you apply to.

The thing I would like to stress to everyone is to keep your success level in perspective. The fact of the matter is the law of attraction is really our big lesson to be learned while we are here. Everything about life ties into it so if we were successful 100% of the time that would mean we are master souls. And basically that would mean that we wouldn't need to be here anymore. Granted there were a few master souls like Jesus and Buddha who were our role models but for the most part the majority of us are just trying to figure out how to create (attract) a positive life. It takes practice because even though it is easy we are trying to break years of habit of creating our world from a negative perspective. It doesn’t make us good or bad people it just means that each of us is at a different level of either attracting positive love or negative turmoil into our life. And how much love or how much turmoil is reflected in our world is really just dependent on how long we have been practicing. We will all get it one day and become just like Jesus and Buddha. But until then remember when all is said and done everything always winds up working out just fine.

Sincerely,
Michelle
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Spirit Ayastigi



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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:25 pm    Post subject: Theressa Reply with quote

Hi theressa,

So who won the green jacket?

according to having faith and belief, if we... truely believe... we get what we want to happen, then the only explanation i have right now is that our world would completely change around us. I know this may sound a little off the wall, but it is the only explanation i can come up with now. The bible and other teachings tell us to have this faith and belief and we will get whatsoever we want, the bible speaks of how much faith we need, as in the size of a mustard seed.
Yet I have had experiences where i didnt really try at all, and i got what i wanted or expected. A friend of mine once asked me this question... What does a man say that gets everything he wants...
At that time many, many things were happening and appearing into our lives, seemingly out of nowhere. I do not remember putting any special emphasis on creating what i wanted, but i did think about it to some degree.
So, my point with the winner of the green jacket (golf tournament) is this... if two people believe, i mean absolutely believe they are going to win that tournament, then there entire view of the world would have to change around them. Each would see in the morning paper, their own name as the winner of the tournament and so on.
If you have seen movies or maybe a t.v. show that shows the actors/actresses where their lives as they see it completely change in an instant. Their entire surroundings change. It is kinda like that. The movie... Field of Dreams with Kevin Costner shows what i mean very well. Hopefully that helps some.


many blessings

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