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littlebird
Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 349 Location: Florida
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:29 am Post subject: Creation |
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Hi Michelle,
I quess I am abit old school mixed with new age. I do think all things work together for the eventual good. This too has been my experience. And again, this is stated in the bible. You all must know studying the bible and being a member of a bible forum has been my passion for years. But like in the movie, where John is in the classroom, wondering WHAT'S NEXT? That is my question also....I can only come up with one answer. That is to keep moving forward in love, notice the coincidences, learn the lesson and ask God for His continual guidence. He has led me here and I am happy to be in such loving and wise company.
Peace and Love to you. _________________ God is Love |
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Theressa
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 793 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:04 am Post subject: As it is in Heaven" - the Movie |
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Hi All,
I have been learning about judgement and realise we all prejudge. We live in an illusion of comparisons so we can learn. We are spiritual beings having a human experience so for us to master things we need opposites. However, it is all experience and all leading us forward in growth.
I find it mind boggling to think I am God and God is me. Yes then I ask myself well if I am God Yikes I make mistakes so is God making mistakes. But, then I realise God is realised and experienced through us. And in reality their are no mistakes. There is only greater mastery.
I find myself judgemental YIKES I am judgemental lol!!! But we are all pre judging things based on our experience. It is only when we don't pre judge but experience that things fall into place. When I hear myself say things I did not ever believe came out of my mouth - I know I now am conscious of my words and have a choice and can challenge them.
I believe our soul is the director and God the Stage hand. God provides the props (people, materials) so our learning can take place. Life is essence and so has no beginning or end.
I find it difficult to comprehend that we live parallel lives. We are physical and metaphysical all at once. We are matter and energy all at once.
I even heard it said that if God is everywhere then we can be everywhere. One person said they were in the room in front of me and also at the hospital with their nephew. This I am unsure about?
I get confussed when I hear of the Eternal now - everything is happening in the eternal now. But, its only our perception of it as unfolding. What do you think about this?
For me I cannot comprehend that we spend time on earth and are born as sinners and then God has played a sick joke on us and said "Right you were born a sinner and I will punish you for what you are" This is like telling a child to walk and when he falls over punishing it when it finally gets to the other end of the room. Why would God do such a thing?
What I do not get is that if we are suppose to accept everyone - then do we have to accept them when they hurt us?
Then I am told spend time with those of a high vibration and they will rub off on you. So must I avoid anyone of a low vibration, how unaccepting is that? And if that is so won't those of higher vibration want to stay clear of me? lol!!
No wonder we need many lives to understand?
When we die/go back to formless what I would like to know is: If we go back to oneness then why do people who have had near death experiences report that their loved ones who already passed over come to meet them? What if one has incarnated many times as different people. Who would they be when they came to meet those in near death experience?
Does the spirit keep changing back to who the person they are visiting knew them as?
Namaste -
Love
Theressa |
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laserus
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 87 Location: Murray,UT
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 1:27 am Post subject: Re: As it is in Heaven" - the Movie |
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| Theressa wrote: |
What I do not get is that if we are suppose to accept everyone - then do we have to accept them when they hurt us?
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Well I think I can unscrable this question at least. maybe?
In my expireance ( the entire vast 29 years of my little life ) I've realized that the person should always be accepted, but the actions should always be carefuly conssidered (also take into consideration absolutes are usualy anything but) when dealing with them. The person is always good ( as far as I can tell), sometimes you just need to dig a little deeper to find the real person. I've never been able to be sure that the person wont act in a way that won't hurt me though. All I can do is pray for them that they might find the person I see and start acting in a way that will better us all. And... in effect bring themselves to the next level. It's sometimes surppriseing what that little bit of prayer will do, but not always. People still have their freedom to choose, and I can't conceave of any sittuation that would make me want to take that away. Though sometimes I want to eliminate a choice or two. If I succead in such an endevor though I know I would be eliminateing choises for myself and its imposible for me to tell exactly which ones so far.  _________________ Love is not made, its grown. RA |
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michellepetkus
Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 809 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 2:37 am Post subject: |
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Hi Theressa,
Accepting is different then condoning. We can accept that people are the way they are for whatever reason but we don't have to and probably shouldn't tolerate behavior that hurts us. I know this can be a little confusing but for me it is mostly a matter of not getting all up in arms thinking and telling people how to live but standing up for myself if someone is telling me how to live. Essentially a you live your life I will live mine philosophy. I accept that they are the way they are and I won't try to change them but I will not tolerate hurtful mean people in my life.
The reason people say stay away from low vibration people is that the people who say it don't yet know how to maintain a protective barrier from being hurt by them so at this point avoidance is the best bet. However, once you have separated who you are from how someone is acting then being in the company of negative people is not as draining. You may choose not to be in their company too often as it is just not a lot of fun but they won't bring you down like they use to.
My understanding of the afterlife and our loved ones is that they do take on the most recent form that we knew them by. When we first leave here our only frame of reference is this life we just left. I do percieve that it is possible once we remember what it is all about our loved ones may take a different form.
Love,
Michelle |
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BridgeBuilder
Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 22
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:01 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | You misunderstand me. I am not calling you blasphemous, it was the unbelievers in the bible that called Jesus blasphemous for saying he was the Son of God. I also do not believe all of what has been translated in the bible. I see a progression of the old testament unto the new testament. Which to me is all about love, which Jesus declared. I did not realize I come off as fearful......so that is a surprise to me! Please know that I do respect your journey and your faith as well, I think we can learn from one another. Thank you for caring about me. |
Dear littlebird,
I have been very busy and unable to respond to your post. Thank you for clarifying. I think what concerned me intially was your earlier post on this thread including the verses about enemies and the devil, and that led me to interpret your subsequent post in a way you did not expect.
I don't believe in the devil anymore, or any true enemies of Love. I feel these are fear-based concepts, but you may think of them in figurative ways. Figuratively, yes, it does sometimes seem like there are enemies out there, but the truth is we are all One. I think you probably know this, and you may not have intended my interpretation of your words.
Peace and Love,
BridgeBuilder _________________ To build a bridge, it is not enough just to have an understanding of both sides of the river, although that is a challenge indeed. Only with the guidance of Love can one master the chasm in between. |
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truth
Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 441 Location: Nottingham, England
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:40 am Post subject: |
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Hi Guys,
Just wanted to share:
I haven't seen the movie yet, but this morning I realised I was in fact in heaven and the words 'As it is in Heaven' came to mind. I'm living my old life, but as a new person - the real me.
I've realised that whenever I've blamed others in the past for my angst (bosses that didn't understand me, friends/family that wouldn't behave the way I wanted them to etc etc) that my angst was actually caused by my own fears - I was working from the premise of what I felt I ought to be doing (borne of fear of not doing the right thing) as opposed to what I truly wanted to do.
We give ourselves too little credit for our own ability to know what is right and what is wrong (easy to do so when you've been told you have been wrong throughout your life). It's time to give ourselves credit for who we are. We do know in our hearts what is right for us; we can live our lives the way they were destined to be lived; we can live in heaven here on earth.
It's quite appropriate I that I write this on a Sunday, moreso because it is the 11th of November. We can bring peace; we are peace.
Love yourselves for who you are, not what you think you ought to be.
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littlebird
Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 349 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Hi BridgeBuilder,
I understand where you are coming from. This is also a world of polarity......up/down, yes/no, light/dark, awake/sleep, on/off, love/hate, right/left, male/female, life/death ~ and so on. And, how can we know good, without bad? Why even our DNA is a double helix! Nevertheless,
ALL IS ONE and ONLY LOVE IS REAL. _________________ God is Love |
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Jennypoo
Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 218 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:08 am Post subject: WOW!!!/Jennypoo/Reply For All!!! |
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Blow me out the back door!!! I just got to shake my head and smile!!!!
WOW!!! Thanks, everyone for so many Awsome &--- so many correct views!!!
Jesus said--- I became a Jew to teach the Jews, I became a Gentile to teach the Gentiles, (elct.) ---you can see what he meant!
It truly is great for me to clearly see him at work in all of you here ---as you express and share your own personal revelations--- of Love, Light and life--- which is of God himself--- this is just awsome!!!
I love it!!!
The first book in the New Testament of the Bible reveals-- (Jesus)-- his first name ---means--- (The First Miracle Virgin Birth)---- then (God) orders Jesus second name--- given him to be--- (Em'man'uel)---- which means-- (GOD IN THE FLESH)-- wow--- you guys really reflect him--- it is like listening to his words through you all!!!
I personally think you are all correct--- and self-correcting as you spiritually grow--- because god is so vast and large--- we must hear him as we relate with each other--- in order for us all to evolve--- into his one son ---the bible does say--- we shall all be changed ---in an instant in the twinkle of an eye ---and shall become sons of the light!!!
Well, I personally feel more enlightened and thank you all ----For shinning your opinions--- and sharing your good spirits here with someone like me ---so now--- I can shine more fully into this world and by sharing all of you--- as I carry on through this life--- we now will shine as one son!!!
You Just Got To Love It Right? I know, I sure do!!!
Thanks again everyone and peace, love, and eternal life be with us all as one perfected shinning light!!!
Hugs & Much Love from Jennypoo  _________________ Jennypoo loves you too!!! |
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littlebird
Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 349 Location: Florida
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Dearest Jennypoo,
Thank you. You are such a joyous wondrous delightful spirit! The loving energy just bursts thru you all the way. God Bless YOU. _________________ God is Love |
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Jennypoo
Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 218 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:02 am Post subject: Thanks Littlebird/Reply for your kind message of love |
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Why thank-you very much Littlebird!!!
It is truly a joyful and happy day ---now here inside my heart to receive such a love- filled and kind -hearted reply!!!
I never really know how people are going to relate to me over the internet---or anywhere else for that matter--- (because words can sound often times like something we really--- (did not mean to convey)--- too another in our writings!!!)
I have been--- (most of my life)--- rejected in person by others for--- (my honest and love-filled)-- opinions by or from-- (God through Christ)-- Who made me---- the way I am!
Weird right?
One would think the world would want to embrace this--- (good spirit)--- God sent to this earth--- within me--- NO--- we must live in-- Fear--- first and judge each other-- hard and fast-- whether--- it be based on our education, appearence, car we drive, house or home--- whatever it be--- we live in, or how much money we have--- or appear to have in our bank! --- The fear is always in control until now!!
This is a bad Fear--- the weapon of satan and his little annoying demons working too get us to (hate and destroy)--- each other --asap-- because the devil knows his days are numbered and the last works --of His decietful-- evil-- must be done quickly!!!
I must say this now ---because God through his son Christ has given us ---(two swords)--- to fight back with--- and a great (tool)--- to do this safely through---(our good spirits have =(two weapons= the two swords)--- they are= (love and truth)--- the greatest=#1= (tool)= to win this battle with is the ----INTERNET!!! (Mixed with our one true love for each other)
Now--- I do not fear sharing--- (my most sacred- opinions and feelings)--- and--- (my #1)--- (Truth and Love)--- here on this website.
(some movie huh?)---because ---every good spirit--- I have related to here at the Celestine Prophecy--- has given me so much---
lust & zeal for heaven on earth)=(good kind of lust =the perfected--- Love of God--- in Christ eternally)--- that we--- (good spirits)--- are all--- (so homesick for and confused by sometimes ---nowadays--- because--- (you all)--- give me such--- (kind and loving words)--- of wisdom, hope, faith, and (honest- love- perfected!!!)
It just makes--- me--- feel so--- (worthy and greatful)--- to (god)--- thru (his #1 son)--- Christ to be alive and too be with my--- (spiritual twins in christ)--- or--- (the sons of light)--- the bible says--- (we all)--- joined as one--- again will become--- in the twinkle of an eye--- in the appointed day of the lord ----
I just wish, (I really could reach through this computer and give you all the biggest and most (holy of holy)--- hugs and brotherly love in a--- ( big ol" kiss )---just like heaven on earth--- will be for us all--- one day soon!!!
I can hardly wait to talk about all this in heaven--- (joined in the real holy matrimony as we were created to be--- united in one perfect eternal love)--- as we are going to be ---(one perfected) ---someday soon--- and we will know each other--- because of the love--- we are now creating--- on this site--- through the internet---and within our own selves willingly and we will see each other in--- truth & love --- as the Bible says--- we will see--- (face to face)--- as we--- (really are)--- we shall see ---each other then fully or in full understanding as we now see only in part!!!
It is truly my life's own destiny--- as far back--- into my childhood--- as I can remember---to always--- talk openly with God & Jesus Christ--- and to pray--- for everone else--- first and then (me and what I may fear)--- that I lack in a moment of weakness--- forgetting the power that is within me--- having created me ---that is my ---(Holy Father God himself)---whom hath already prepared a home for me--- and all that I need--- or ever could possibly imagine--- in my most heart-felt and hope-filled dreams ---for us all--- in his unspeakable joy and righteous ways ---His goodness and good spirit hath truly already blessed me as well as--- (you all too!!!)---
with so much good and so much happiness ahead for us ---well let me say--- I am truly the richest woman on the face of this earth--- at this very moment--- in time--- and I will pray--- that my blessings be shared first--- with you all---- and I know---I will still be rich beyond our belief--- even if there is only--- one crumb--- of god's goodness--- left for me---It is enough to sustain me for eternity in christ one perfected love--- in and for us all!!
I must stop now--- as you can see ---I can just go on and on and on-- eternally grateful and confident--- in our blessed and truly rich ---(god-filled lives)--- that he hath promised us--- and hath with his--- (#1 son)--- prepared--- a perfect & eternal--- love--- filled--- home of--- joyful ---never--- ending ---(love and peace for us all) ---OUR (# 1) HOME!!! (O.k.--- So--- I--- love)--- to just love--- (you all)--- and that is it for now!!!
Of Course I must end by saying peace out & I will always keep (you all)--- in my thoughts and prayers ---and will whole-heartly love you ---truly and eternally (as one perfected and holy united Family)--- of the most High ---our God ---our--- own heavenly father perfect and--- true & love, light and life ---in us all ----doesn't that just make you so happy---I know it does me!!!
Love Jennypoo _________________ Jennypoo loves you too!!! |
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