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starsapphire
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 Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:12 pm Post subject: Thrive/ Existing problems of today, Solution for our future |
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I just finished watching this video and could certainly see how our Free Will has brought us to this crucial point in our evolution today but also was able to foresee the future to come. I still continue to support the idea that as the planet continues to orbit into a higher vibration in space that the negativity like wars, hate, crime, corruption etc (which cannot survive in the higher vibrations) will move into a different realty and those that "choose" to hold onto that particular consciousness will play out "that reality" in that framework of time some where else in space. While others who have raised their consciousness and moved out of this type of consciousness will go forward to unite in the building of a better world for all of mankind not just for themselves:( One of things I continually see here in the physical world is that our physical or concrete minds can only see perspectives from this world. So we observe the continuing of arguing of viewpoints when, in fact, many times when I read peoples comments both people are correct. So when one person argues that our problems 'must" be worked out here and that waiting around for the New World is not the way? True but not true. Our evolution requires us to work out, individually and collectively, many of these problems "we" have created, however, not in this dimension. And we should be working towards this and stop arguing over who's right and who's wrong which most times is our ego and "not the desire" of the Soul or the Higher Self or God or your Higher Power etc.
http://www.thrivemovement.com/the_movie |
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eaglesoul
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Location: Half way between this dimension and the other one
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:53 pm Post subject: sync |
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Glorious Easter to all my friends in CP; may the Easter bunnies arrive at your door today bringing new life and great joy to your hearts!
Like your post:)
Synchronistically I wrote something like what you say in my blog a few days ago and published today...
if you want to comment here it is :
http://terrazaview.wordpress.com/2012/04/08/317/ |
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starsapphire
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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eaglesoul
I just finished reading your blog and it was excellent and certainly rang true for me as well. It's hard not to succumb to what is happening in today's world where we allow that energy to overpower us and forget our true purpose and why we're here. " Let go, let go, let go" I hear that voice inside my head so much of the time now. I also love your signature "Half way between this dimension and the other one" I am so with you on this and half the time I feel like my physical being is functioning and doing my job etc. but my true self is not here at all so detachment and letting go is becoming easier and easier for me. Thank you for your article on your blog eaglesoul:) |
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eaglesoul
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eaglesoul
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| Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Aaaaaand Happy Easter everyone!!! |
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starsapphire
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| Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:48 pm Post subject: Happy Easter |
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| Hi eaglesoul, thank you for the Easter wish and I did go to your website and read you latest post on,"Service". Very nice, thank you! I didn't really celebrate Easter in the traditional way this year. We just had a nice dinner and watched some movies:) My son and I had a conversation about this and I told him that I feel like Easter is like this gestalt of energy that the majority of humanity continue to feed this lie that Jesus died for our sins? I just can no longer support this or other falsehoods about who this man was and what he did? I believe he was a Master, a great teacher or messenger of light and probably would tell us such a different story if he were here today. I love festivities and think they should always be in our society but for the right reasons. I think I am getting weary of all the non-sense and find myself pulling away more and more and just quietly go on my way:) |
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irides
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| Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:15 am Post subject: |
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I've thought a lot about the issue of Christ dying for people's sins. I've read that at least some Hindus believe a Master can absorb someone's bad karma if he chooses. In the example I read, the Master was dying as he did this. Doesn't that sound a lot like the same thing Christ supposedly did? Of course there's a big difference between karma and the Christian term "sin" but many people feel the word "sin" has been mistranslated. Don't you think the beliefs of all religions probably contain kernels of truth but also mistakes in interpretation? I believe that Christ, and other Masters like Muhammad, didn't want to be worshiped at all. Couldn't that be why Muhammad forbade any likenesses made of himself?
Best wishes.
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starsapphire
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| Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:25 am Post subject: |
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| irides wrote: | I've thought a lot about the issue of Christ dying for people's sins. I've read that at least some Hindus believe a Master can absorb someone's bad karma if he chooses. In the example I read, the Master was dying as he did this. Doesn't that sound a lot like the same thing Christ supposedly did?
Hi, I'd like to say that to "sin" is to error or to make a mistake. The idea of karma is nothing more than lessons designed to teach us what not to do again. Therefore "mistakes" are how we learn "if we have the awareness" to understand that the error in judgement or the action or choice we made was harmful to us or the people around us, that never happens first time out. So, we then repeat the error and suffer the consequences because maybe the desire within us has not been fulfilled or we lack the self discipline or the effects or consequences have not been severe enough to make an impact that will tell us to not open that door ever, ever again. We all get these intuitive feelings
that tell us, "No Way" will I do that again! There is no judgement ever involved though in the soul's journey. We and we alone are our own judge and jury no one else.
For any of us to deceive ourselves in thinking that a Master who has been through the toughest of trials and tribulations "throughout" many, many, many incarnations would absolve our karma is false and a cop out that many use to ease their own conscience. We've all blamed other people for our mistakes. One very important reason why a Master or anyone cannot absolve or absorb another's karma is because it would deny the Divine Understanding that each one of us needs to grow and mature.
Don't you think the beliefs of all religions probably contain kernels of truth but also mistakes in interpretation?
I believe that's an absolute truth.. Individual perception of what is and what isn't truth. I can go back and think to myself, "How did you ever come to this or that evaluation"? Our minds are so literal and so keeping our minds and hearts open and flexible and remove our prejudice, our personal programming etc, etc then we would as individuals and as a race be able to move forward and could interpret truth in a whole different way. I can tell you honestly I have the same attitudes I had when I came into this earth but "hopefully' much more refined. And, I work on monitoring my thoughts and behaviors and emotional responses all the time. That's why evolution takes so long I think because we have been taught not to question, follow blindly and most people aren't really aware of their thoughts or what their manifesting.
I believe that Christ, and other Masters like Muhammad, didn't want to be worshiped at all. Couldn't that be why Muhammad forbade any likenesses made of himself?
Your so right about this. No Master wants to be worshiped and yet we continue to put them on pedestals? However, that's another obstacle for this race because to be in the present of a Master leaves one awe-struck. We need to learn to admire, and respect what they have to give to us but never adorn or worship. We need to learn how to do this with ourselves though and each other. Best wishes to you too:)
Best wishes.
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irides
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| Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks so much for your reply starsapphire. It's nice to have a discussion here again even if this side is pretty slow Karma is a fascinating subject. I agree it seems to be the ultimate, completely objective, non-judgemental teaching tool. It can work in both individuals and in groups, even whole nations. I've been involved in a group dynamic for the past 5 years (it has made me often wonder what karma we invoked.....) I'm still thinking about the karma vs sin concept. If I remember correctly what I read, it was the Hindu Master's student who received the karma gift (the lessening of bad karma). If that student was sufficiently advanced, wouldn't he/she understand what the gift meant and want to respond to that? It would almost be a secondary karma, lol. I'm not an expert on the Bible. Is there any mention of Christ dying for people's sins in the Bible itself? Did one of his followers witness, or experience it? Or did it come down in later Christian writings? Or could it be based on earlier messiah- type events, in other religions? Any thoughts, anyone?
Best wishes.
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starsapphire
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| Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| irides wrote: | Thanks so much for your reply starsapphire. It's nice to have a discussion here again even if this side is pretty slow
Yes I know what you mean. I think so many are feeling so disillusioned with what's going on in the world and are essentially disconnecting to this 3 rd dimension in order to move forward? I feel like a yo-yo most of the time fluctuating from having faith in that change will come to thinking maybe not?
Karma is a fascinating subject. I agree it seems to be the ultimate, completely objective, non-judgemental teaching tool. It can work in both individuals and in groups, even whole nations.
I agree completely.
I've been involved in a group dynamic for the past 5 years (it has made me often wonder what karma we invoked.....)
Even in group dynamics, I think, each individual soul in that play out probably has different but similar lessons. One may be the enabler, one might be learning detachment, one might be the one who thrives on stirring up the pot and keeping resentment alive? Each one has a different role but came together as the lesson was needed for everyone but for different reasons?
I'm still thinking about the karma vs sin concept.
If we could move away from the idea of sin and replace it with the word mistake then that energy with the word "sin" carries would slowly dissipate I think. I never ever use the word "sin" in any conversation I have anymore.
If I remember correctly what I read, it was the Hindu Master's student who received the karma gift (the lessening of bad karma). If that student was sufficiently advanced, wouldn't he/she understand what the gift meant and want to respond to that? It would almost be a secondary karma, lol.
I know I've had psychics (long ago) tell me that they can do their magic or words or prayers whatever? And my karma with such and such will be undone? Well I think if one hasn't learned their lesson then that same lesson will continue with someone else. So possibly my ties to that person may be over because either myself or they have resolved whatever anger or hurt etc was being held within or towards the other person. However, that
doesn't mean that a similar situation may not come up again with someone else. Also their is the "possibility" that though rare but does happen, "if" one maybe worked out their karma through service of some kind then The Law of the Universe might remove some of their karma. Is it a gift? Yes and No. One has to work for it but one is also very grateful for the gift of lessening their load. Universal Law is not cut and dried, it's compassionate and loving and forgiving but since "We" are the Law because we are the creators of our own choices then it's our true understanding of what not to do again or not harbor resentment or judgements towards others as we've done the same things ourselves in this life or another? That's the whole point of evolution I think.
I'm not an expert on the Bible. Is there any mention of Christ dying for people's sins in the Bible itself? Did one of his followers witness, or experience it? Or did it come down in later Christian writings? Or could it be based on earlier messiah- type events, in other religions? Any thoughts,
anyone?
I'm not an expert on the Bible for sure:) However, I have read enough through scholars that the Bible was written long after the death of Jesus.
If their is someplace in the Bible that says "Jesus" died for our sins" it was written by someone who wanted to perceive this as truth? Some scholars will say that anything written 2 or 3 decades ago is no longer truth anyway.
Their were, apparently over 40 different people who wrote the Bible, all individual perceptions of their own truth. So we have their truth, your truth, my truth and 7 billion other people who hold their own truths? Who's right, who's wrong? Everyone, I believe, is a channel of God because we are all a part of the creative process and we contribute our thoughts, ideas, experiences to that great energy of life.
I, myself, embrace all belief systems as a part of the Creator and I try and respect what other people believe but I do look mostly at a person's demonstration. It's ok to say we believe this or that but do we follow or demonstrate what we believe? We all falter there because human behavior still has many flaws for various reasons. I have books on the Native American philosophy, I recently was given a "Singing Bowl" from Tibet used for healing and meditation. I embrace many of the Asian and Indian herbal remedies for health purposes. I have a series of DVD's by Joseph Campbell who traveled the world over studying all the different spiritual beliefs and how they all tie into each other. So maybe there's an element of truth in all cultures and how they practice their spirituality. Best Wishes to you too again:)
Best wishes.
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eaglesoul
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| Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 5:19 am Post subject: rituals |
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Star good to hear from you!
good also that my salute engaged you into this exchange...feel honored...
tks for reading my blog...here an entry that came right from my heart into the words onscreen..I have never experienced something like that....it was really an amazing moment...
http://terrazaview.wordpress.com/2012/10/28/i-am-in-love/
on the topic of Easter...I consider it a ritual...as this it was there before christianity...as a celebration of life....rituals are important pieces of our community life...
I celebrateit in an open spiritual form...
yes I have also heard of gurus and shamans taking the karma of a community and using their body as conduit...for cleaning...for healing...
I believe this is what Jesus did...it is another expression of Love in action.
What the church did with the Christ teachings....is another matter...
a hug
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starsapphire
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| Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 2:12 am Post subject: |
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| Hi Eaglesoul, I read the poem and it was very nice, Thank You. I hope you are doing well. Their is a movie coming out called, "Sirius The UFO Disclosure". with Dr. Steven Greer, have you heard of it? It should be interesting to see if our Government and Military will finally come forth with a secret they have oppressed from the people for so many years. It, hopefully will open many doors, time will tell of course. |
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eaglesoul
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| Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 6:00 am Post subject: |
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Hi star...I am doing better everyday...what about you?
UFOs are so evidently natural to me....as so many stars look us from vast space....it is just human centrism who can imagine we are alone in the Universe....I agree with you, time will tell... |
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starsapphire
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:50 am Post subject: |
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Hi eaglesoul:) I get by day by day by day? Some days are better than others or should I say more tolerable depending on my state of mind. I hear myself say more and more that I just don't want to be here anymore but I'm sure that is true of many, many people who are struggling with the unfoldment of their awareness. However, I will say with great compassion that I didn't reach this state of mind overnight and so observing others in their struggle and pain of withdrawing little by little and letting go of all that was once comfortable and joyous to them reaches deep inside of me with such understanding. I once had a symbolic dream where I was on a Space Ship traveling at a rapid speed away from this planet. I was standing at a very large window looking down at Planet Earth thinking I feel like Judy Garland in the Wizard Of Oz when she clicked her heels and said I just wanna go, I just wanna go home. I had such sadness in my heart and tears running down my face. Planet Earth was the only home I had ever known. The dream was many years ago but sometimes we're given the answer before the question in that again it has been a long journey in letting go in all areas of my life so my feelings then and my feelings now are different.
I'm glad your doing better! |
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