i cant find anyone else who feels this

[oldsoul]

[wizanda]

Agreed you will be, as will we, to stand up...

Yet how many if it happened tomorrow for instance, have even the slightest clue of who they really are?

We do believe, if I asked you could define your spirit, quite well and we hear it in the way you phrase your self.

So its all very well, some of us ascending whilst here again, yet when we open the door to heaven, and it mingles with this realm as it use to, how many people would even cope with that?



Imagine….and maybe just that one word is enough as people go far to imagine sorts, and until we disable the fake prophets in the Bible and these destruction prophecies.

We are in mess with the books and we were sent to help, so imagine if we are saying it is a mess after studying all this life, and as they have killed me 5 times already.

We had peace like this in 1066 dooms day was Christ and destroyed...

We have fixed much of the texts, yet informing the world each time is difficult and since it is cult; they will fight thinking you taking off them, when you giving love…

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[michellepetkus]

Hi Gary,



Actually the term oneness is Wizanda’s term. And I think it is a pretty good word for describing the spiritual level we are all trying to achieve. My actual perception of it is being in a state of pure unconditional love. Begin positive as opposed to negative. Even the seemingly small act of complaining about someone’s behavior is a negative activity and thus means you are not in oneness. As for me personally, I have been in that state but like you cannot maintain it every waking second of the day. I am trying and as I practice it more, let go of more and more of my negative behaviors, I am finding that it is becoming almost second nature. I think most of the people who come to this site have at least gained the understanding of what it means to be there which is a huge step but it takes conscious effort to make it a part of who we are. To work through all the layers of subconscious thought we have brought with us from lifetimes of experiences that maybe were not so pleasant. I too have not come across anyone who has fully mastered it but agree 100% that if anyone has it was Jesus and is why he is our role model. Ultimately I concur that no matter how you define it for yourself, whether one person’s words are exactly the same or not, it doesn’t mean you aren’t both thinking and feeling the same thing. You are just explaining it a little differently which is why I think this site is so helpful. Different perspectives help us to see the world from many different points of view. Sometimes one point a view will help someone to click in that understanding while others need to see it a different way to get there. We are all here helping each other along the path and I think that is fabulous.



I also agree with you that our spirit will endure even after the existence of this world ends. So there is no need to fear that we have a limited amount of time to somehow get it. That if we don’t we would simply disappear. When the life of this planet has run its course and ceases to exist I seriously doubt that any souls who still need to grow would be left behind. They will just be given a new avenue from which to learn their lessons. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t still be trying. It just means that if you are fearing the end of the world then you are fearing that you may somehow be cast off into oblivion. But if you believe in reincarnation then that possibility is impossible because it proves that our spirit lives on after our physical bodies have died. So no matter what, even if you can’t have the opportunity to be physical again you will still always be what you were to begin with, ever enduring spiritual energy.





Wizanda,



You are correct that no one should ever ask you to be something you are not. If I gave you that impression it was not my intent. If I was trying to impart anything it is the more you let go of trying to make life happen more of who you truly are comes through as opposed to the negative ego part of yourself and subsequently the easier life becomes. I still think life is designed to be effortless but maybe you can help me out. When you use parables maybe you can give a little more detail behind their stories so I can understand them and your point a little better.



Sincerely,

Michelle

[oldsoul]

[oldsoul]

[wizanda]

Oneness is what we shouted, when we died at 23, and got to see hell…. which when it all got a bit crowded…. we shouted out “we know oneness”!

Why? We are unsure at the time!

Yet we got taken to heaven, as we love oneness more then life!

We have written it all up, as to make a guide to the after life, and here.

Basically though it is in truth a selection, of Buddha meaning wisdom = Dom= place = kingdom and freedom…those who sit there are like fathers to the nations, in speech and life’s.

Buddha, Lao Tzu, Yeshua, Daniel, Isaiah and loads more as dynamic energy patterns of the centre of wisdom, in our universe; which is the more intrinsic part of what is like an eye.

The centre appears bright and is rainbow of reflections, seeing the most beautiful reflection, you can imagine in the centre.

The outer edges are unconditional love and not just love as we imagine, yet dynamic food fed in faith, from song.

Anyway we have a photographic spirit, more or less comes in handy sort of like a spider leaving a trail to follow back.
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[michellepetkus]

Hi Gary,

[oldsoul]

[michellepetkus]

Hello Gary,



Maybe the word asleep wasn't particularly the right word. But for me my experience really has been an awakening of sorts. Though I always had a certain level of consciousness it wasn’t until I really began to look at life objectively, by stepping outside myself and the drama and observing the events that were happening around me, that I truly began to feel a real sense of self-awareness about myself. To me it felt a lot like taking blinders off and seeing myself and the world for what it really was. The first step was seeing myself in negative activities and becoming aware of how it made me feel physically and how my actions were affecting other people. Once I was able to gain this objectivity about myself I then began to become objective about how other people acted. I began to see beyond people’s actions to read between the lines and understand what their motives were. And it occurred to me that the large majority of the population never intends to be negative. They mostly just act poorly in response to a fear. In any event, as my self-awareness grew I began to have a sense that no matter what there was no chance of me ever going back to me being in a state of not being aware of what was going on. So to some degree I did have an awakening called self-awareness but I’m not so sure too many other people are self-aware at this point. Does this mean I think they are not on the same path? Not at all. It just means I don’t think they are aware of their role in the reason why things happen in their life. Things happen to them not because of them. But yes, everyone is where they are meant to be and all is truly right with the world.



Then complacency again maybe not the right choice of words but from my experience a lot of the people in my immediate world are not actively trying to improve themselves. I don‚Äôt think any less of them but it is a truth I am aware of. To face your own negativity takes a lot of courage. I will admit as I went through it I came close to the edge and didn‚Äôt know if I was ever going to make it back. But the rewards for facing myself far exceed the internal life of fear and negative emotions that I had previously lived with on a daily basis almost without me even realizing it. I was a bundle of frazzled and frayed emotional energy hidden under a fa?ßade of being a good girl until I made the choice to overcome my fears and awakened to a world of unbelievable peace. So I think maybe for most it is still too scary to take that next step which is why, though I always try to champion all those in my life, I will go to extra special lengths for the souls I see truly making an attempt to become better than what they already are. And when the rest are ready to make that next step I‚Äôll be there waiting to hold their hand too. But only if they want me to. And I have a feeling, even though we may use different words, your life reflects a lot of these philosophies too.



Sincerely,

Michelle

[oldsoul]

Michelle





Sorry if I seem a bit to focused on the meaning of words ...... words are all we have here .......and people use them in different ways .



I don't like to say things like so and so is still asleep ..... to me that is name calling .

But I don't have any problems with talking about awakenings

The most interesting thing about awakenings to me is that they all seem to be different .



Mine happened quite a few years ago ....... the short description of it would be understanding love as energy

My awakening showed me what liightwork is about .... and how to use love and light to heal things like emotional pain .



There is a page about my awakening at www.smallinfinity.com/lightworker



One thing I find most awakenings have in common ...... they change people in profound ways ...... when someone suddenly becomes aware of a life changing truth ..... there is a very powerful desire to share that truth

A truth so wonderful and profound just can't be held within



Your awakening was alot different than mine

I am empathic at times ......I sometimes pick up feelings and realise that they arn't mine . sometimes it works like a lie detector ...... if they are saying one thing and I am picking up conflicting feelings ......I usually believe the feelings .



my path is all about love as energy ..........so I don't usually pick up stuff empathicly ...... I have to be pretty tuned into someones energy before I start picking things up like that





I just read your post again ......

[michellepetkus]

Hi Gary,



No worries on the word thing. I personally think it is important for all of us to have and take the opportunity to clarify what we mean so there aren’t any misunderstandings. Our feelings are truer to who we really are because our feelings are energy and we are really no more than just energy as most of us would agree. Though I do think that people’s emotions do come through in their writing. I know I can feel it when someone writes about an understanding they have just discovered and the feeling of elation I get is just awesome and I also feel myself tense up when someone has written something very judgmental. But I do concur that for the most part it is a lot easier to feel where someone is coming from if you are in their physical presence. And my perspective on awareness is really the same thing. It is the feelings I get that alert me to what the situation really is, whether in myself or in others. Yes, there are physical things that people do that give themselves away but you are truly correct in trusting your feelings because I have yet to find them to lie.



But I did not intend to use my words as judgments on people’s spiritual progress. They were a description of their state of awareness and nothing more. But you are exactly right in pointing out that unless someone is ready to reach an understanding it is probable that they won’t be able to comprehend what we mean so we have to remember that it can be easy to forget what it was like to be them not quite feeling the understanding. I think this is the biggest reason for a lot of the conflicts in the world. We all, for some reason, maybe because in the end we are all one, but we all assume everyone else should feel and understand things exactly as we do and it is simply not the case. So yes please ask me questions when what I say seems to conflict with something you are thinking, especially if it seems to you that I am being judgmental because it is the last thing in the world I want to be.



One last note on awareness. I have been on this quest of understanding life ever since I can remember. I have always felt to some degree that I came here specifically for that purpose. To somehow figure out as much as I can. So since I came this way I can’t say for certain how long I’ve been working on reaching the level I’m at. It is very probable that I have spent lifetimes getting to this point so though it may seem as though I’ve jumped a million miles it may have taken a million years to get to that jumping point in the first place. In any event, I feel in my heart, though all of us will definitely get there at some point, if someone is starting to ask the question, how can I make my life better, then they’ve started the ball rolling and will one day sooner rather than later reach the point where they are also self-aware. But yes, I do wish to share what I know because I want everyone to feel as happy about life as I do.



By the by, that was a very beautiful definition of love. Quite similar to how I've come to define it. It’s good to put it out there because I agree with you that I don’t know that people do truly understand what love is. I know I didn’t. And hopefully what you are doing will help others understand too.



Sincerely,

Michelle

[Darabe]