CELESTINE CHAT HAS CLOSED DOWN!!!

[Theressa]

Just to let you all know that Celestine Chat room has closed down!!!! All members have been redirected here to the forum.

[littlebird]

Hi Theressa,

WOW! I only visited the chat a few times, too fast for me! There must of been some hot and heavy conversations going on in there. Wonder what that was all about! Any info that you know of?
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God is Love

[Theressa]

Hi Little bird,

The notice said that after great consideration James and Salle Redfield feel that given the new energy that each person should individually work
on their own energy fields.

I visited the chat room now and then. It seemed at times to have many regulars and I had some great conversations. There was the odd person
who seemed to dominate with their problems but my guess is that these
people like the rest of us were looking for the light. I'd love to join the global prayer but it seems its on very late at night for me as I live in the UK.

I enjoyed reading one of your many posts yesterday about Christianity and the fact you said church is like kindergarden. I agree we all have to be introduced to Spirit in some way and then we can decide to go our own way.

I have been learning about Judgement today and how we get into the habit of thinking we know what is best for others and also are so judgemental about our own progress. I laughed because I could see myself judging myself I was contemplating the fact that no one can know everything and when one is learning something new it is evitable that they won't know all the steps straight away but after years of judgement one things they should (I thought I should lol) It is funny that we forget with are GOD experientally and that its all just experience. (I forget lol) I guess I am an eternal learner and in time I will understand more but for now I guess I need to celebrate how far I've come. (how far all of us here have come and as a planet) Michael Jackson's story shows us how JUDGEMENT HARMS both outer and inner.

Here's to us all accepting our divine place in it all. I know this could have gone in the prayers or another thread but OH well it felt right to put it here so if I've broken the rules who cares! Because it is about time societal rules got shook up. They already are ha ha!!!

Love to you little bird
Theressa xx

[littlebird]

Dear Theressa,

Me oh my, how you shine!! You HAVE come a long way. Oh, that's not a judgement by the way, just an observation. lol And I don't think judging ourselves is so bad. As long as we do not condemn ourselves rather take it as a wanting to improve in a certain area. There is even scripture that says if we judge ourselves we shall not be judged.

Thanks for the info, but what do the Redfields' mean by "THE NEW ENERGY" regarding the chat room? I wish I could join the global prayer also, but I work on Tuesday eves. Maybe that will change someday.

The whole MJ story is so sad. I was a big fan growing up and yes, how terrible that he let the pressures of the world get to him. The media can be so cruel. Wonder if that will ever change.......I hope so.

Love and Light to you,
littlebird
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[Theressa]

Hi Little bird,

I think the Redfields are talking about recent planetary changes. I was told the other day that some eclipse have brought about spiritual shifts and the third of three such shifts will happen around 15th August ready for this 2012 shift ascension.

I am in a place at the moment where i am afraid to raise my vibration further since Spirits are now making themselves known in my home. Moving things and revealing themselves to my daughter. I am just not ready for this sort of things

Love and light
Theressa xx

[Wizlove]

Hi Theressa, and everybody,

I've been coming to CV chat since 1999. Many great conversations, there, and great energetic connections, too. Among my nest memories in CV chat are the "Online Soul Groups" i have been hosting through the years, which were conscious conversations based on the celestine insights.

I had at first a surprise reaction when I saw, today, the short message announcing that CV chat was closed, but, hehe, everything comes to an end in this world of ever changing forms

I respect the decision of the owners of this site. However, there is an energy in direct, live conversations that lacks in forums. I already own and moderate a spiritual forum for many years, but do like some direct chat from time to time. I want to go in a chatroom in which I know I will be able to find people with spiritual like minds. CV chat was the place to go, for me.


Here is another chat room, that still currently exists, that we used to go to when CV chat was down:


http://client11.addonchat.com/sc.php?id=376182


There is another chatroom I recently heard of, moderated by Angelo, at http://orbode.org/id1.html . This chatroom needs registration. I never went in, but was told by a long time CV chatroom friend that many regular CV chatters were found there, now.

For those who believe that synchronistic messages do happen in chatrooms, you'll have some URLs to start with.

Joy and Peacefulness to everybody!

Wiz

[littlebird]

Good morning, Theressa,

In a previous thread you had mentioned a friend advised you not to lean on your angel cards or something to that effect. I am going to agree with them. Totems and such can become idols of the heart, if we are not careful. They can take the place of putting our trust in the true God, who is the God of the living. True angels always serve and glorify God. May you look to Jesus Christ for divine guidance.

God be with you, Love, Lisa
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[eaglesoul]

Theressa :
You can log on to the online prayer anytime if you cant do it at the time it is online . It is there recorded the next day .
You just click in there at the date , I do it when life things get in the way , and can`t make it on time...since time is just an illusion of this dimension , it is just as powerful and healing as ever...intention and focus brings you in alignment
enjoy!
I do not miss the online chat...tried a couple of times and found it kind of confusing ...so I trust the decision taken.
Namaste
P

[MM2]

Hello,

I was surprised in some ways to see the chatroom decidely closed.

In some ways I was hoping that the system and moderation would have been improved to help redirect the flow in the direction that kelly and James and the celestine crew know it can go but closing down suggests that they must not feel they have the resources to guide the chat with such an energy requirement.

But I do wonder if James would be interested in starting a chatroom for "really spiritual" people: those people who are here to deepen their experience and live the celestine vision. I believe you are right in saying that the chat holds a certain energy that the forum does not, but I feel that the energy in the Celestine Chat was actually perpetuating a lower awareness level that prevented a deepening of our spiritual awareness. It felt like things were getting better though which is why I'm surprised they closed it down.

Consider the note:

[Grahame]

Here is a thought Mark.

Perhaps the very idea of the existence of higher and lower energy levels, of higher or lower levels of awareness, perpetuates the existence of both. The very notion of energy blockages is the progenitor of all energy blockages. The idea of something being wrong in the world perpetuates wrongness in the world.

One could argue that the existence of the Celestine Community perpetuates everything the community rages against and strives for. The cause creates itself. I am not yet convinced of the concept of critical mass in thought. What would such a critical mass be doing except for perpetuating it's own sponsoring thought form? Perhaps a critical non-mass would be more effective?

Let us take the line that we are creators or co-creators (I am not really sure of the distinction), that our thoughts are reflected in the 3D universe; that we create through thought. The sponsoring thought behind 'We must raise the level of consciousness' is that Consciousness is in some way not good enough - thus creating a universe in which consciousness is not good enough. It can never be good enough and to strive through action to make it so would be essentially futile.

If on the other hand we are fatalists, or we believe in destiny, then little we do can make any difference. Can it?

The way I see it no matter how you structure a chat room at best you will create a window into WHAT IS. It is worth considering whether creating a room for so called higher level individuals would only serve to perpetuate or exacerbate a world where lower level individuals abound.

I would have thought that where an individual did hold this higher level awareness, it would not matter how many people of lower level awareness gathered around them. I wonder if Jesus walked around saying "Well, the Kingdom of God IS with in us all but, you know, some of youse just don't get it hey. I mean I love you guys and all but I don't think you'll be much good to me in, you know, getting things done. I'll go have a pow-wow with some of the the big wigs like Moses and them and we'll sort it all out - you guys just go about your business of being plebs, 'cause you just wouldn't understand"

However, if you are willing to say lets make the chat room for people who are more or less talking the same turkey and we can get together hang out and talk about stuff that's fun to talk about without getting interrupted by people who just don't get it the way we do - we'll keep ourselves positive and working together to appease our being. Then no probs! I hope I get invited...
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"Problems cannot be solved from the same level of consciousness that created them" - Einstien

[truth]

The realisation of the human value of equality of life was a blessing. However, we have to learn how to live that value in order to bring that part of humanity to life... we're struggling... but we have help...

Discrimination only became part of life when we realised the equality of human life...

Discrimination only rears its head when we remove ourselves from living a life attuned to the equality of human life...

We can use discrimination to learn how to live equally.

So, what is equality? We've spent a good few decades working out how best to legislate equality and although it has achieved much, I believe its greatest achievement is that we've learnt that we cannot legislate equality. The only way to ensure equality, in my view, is to live it. Think about it for a moment - we do not know why we live, so we cannot know 'the right way to live', therefore we cannot effectively write rules around living.

So, what to do? My thinking is that when somebody takes time out of their life to be part of our life it is for shared intention on both parts. We might not rationally know what that intention is, but, for whatever reason, we have asked life for that encounter and so too has the other. Whenever we reject the opportunity to find out more, we reject the opportunity to bring that bit more of ourselves that we want to bring to life, that brought about the encounter in the first place, to life.

To me, it is as though life itself guides us through life. When the opportunities that life brings bring about wonderment and enjoyment, we have no problem accepting its wisdom. However, whenever those opportunities are perceived as problems that we have to fix, we choose to know what we really want better than life itself... the joy and confusion that is free will... without which we wouldn't be where we are today... looking forward to the challenges of tomorrow.

As always, a pleasure to share

[Theressa]

Hi Truth,

What i have been doing a bit of think about is RESPECT for all. I have been told by ONE friend that I have become too concerned with not harming anyone that I will know longer joke about disabled people and pull funny faces about them and also that I will pull my daughter up if she does such things. I explained to my daughter that we disempower people
if we feed the idea that they are people to poke fun at.

My dilemma is, is it that we should allow these jokes or take them as serious business that impacts others? Even if in a guise of a joke.

One friend is forever saying things like "well its obvious derrr that someone should know ............" I reply "why just because you know it, we are all at different parts in our processes on different things so know
its not obvious unless its within your experience and awareness"

Can one be too caring about the impact of words regardless of whether
its disguised as a joke or not?

How to turn off ones trigger and anger when others put me down about being sensitive and wanting to teach my daughter that words have power?

any insights

Theressa
xxx

[truth]

Hi Theressa,

British humour is an amazing tool isn't it? It's as though it's the first skill we learn - how to deal with the absurdities in life when we feel powerless to do anything constructive about them, that's right - laugh at it. What we're doing, when we laugh, is laughing at ourselves.

For somebody who could laugh at life at the drop of a hat, I've been incredibly serious for the last decade - it seems as though I've lost my sense of humour - or at least my ability to laugh at life. However, now I've got back my sense of joy of life, the good humour element has returned. I think I had to switch off the humour button in order to be honest with myself about the absurdities in life in order to remove those beliefs (note the plural!) of powerlessness... I guess you are doing the same - weird huh!

I'm interested that you have picked up on the respect element of equality, because I've been doing some thinking around Spiral Dynamics and linked its 'Tribal' stage to human realisation of human/whole life interconnectivity. The problem was that when we realised this connectivity we were tribes and by the time we realised there were other tribes, which would have enabled us to all live on the planet together as one (maybe) elements of those tribes would have realised self worth and hence the inter-tribal conflicts began. We're talking thousands of years ago and yet we still revert to the same behaviours when we feel we are disrespected in any way - we disrespect back. Of course, when we do feel disrespected in anyway, it doesn't mean that we are being disrespected, rather that we don't respect our self enough in that situation to love ourselves. Had the tribes way back when had the wherewithall to fully understand what that interconnectivity meant, they would have realised it was with the whole of life rather than limit it to their own tribal members only... so, for example, abled bodied will continue to take the mickey out of disabled and vice versa (important), until we realise and live that connectivity to each other by wanting to learn to progress with each other.

The thing is that discussions such as this and many others besides are bringing that progress to life as a real possibility and that tells me that it is happening. In the meantime, we all have to live the lives we have to live and we have to act when we feel the need to act - there is no right or wrong way.

Hugs,
Pat
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