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EYEMAN
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 171 Location: north wales, united kingdom.
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:48 pm Post subject: A VISION. |
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Hello everybody, this is my first time on this site and i would like to say i think its great to share views and opinions on what we deeply believe in.
I had a thought one day, or should i say a vision, one day at work, there was a large amount of people stood in a field moving slowly from one person to another talking.
there was no nastiness at all only smiles and laughter, everybody was learning something new from eachother and moving on to someone else without addiction.
This made me feel really lifted for a few minutes and i felt great.
Has anybody else out there had any deep thoughts or visions that they would like to share.
I would also like to say that the ninth insight in the book gave my imagination a real boost when i read it.
I feel that visions are step in the right direction.
At first i felt a little shy about writing this down, but im glad i did now.
I hope we can talk soon.
good bye for now. _________________ EYEMAN |
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aLx
Joined: 21 Dec 2005 Posts: 137 Location: Philippines
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:25 am Post subject: |
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what does that vision means to you?
btw, welcome here..
i always have this vision. that everything happens at one moment only, i mean the past the present and the future all happens at the same time. i know its hard to grasp but this thought always comes into me. i really believed that time is just our manmade illusion, and all is happening now in the ultimate reality.
good day _________________ If God is our target destination, we cant miss. God is so big. He's everything, we have nowhere else to go. |
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EYEMAN
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 171 Location: north wales, united kingdom.
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:56 am Post subject: Searching for an answer. |
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Hello alx.
thanks for the vision alx thats a deep concept. im glad you asked me what it means to me, i never asked myself that question, now im thinking about it in a different way.
when i realise the answer of what it means to me i will let you know. in the mean time thanks for welcoming me and giving me a new vision.
goodbye man. _________________ EYEMAN |
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Theressa
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 793 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:18 pm Post subject: A vision |
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Hi Eyeman, Hi Alx,
Welcome here!
The more I have worked on my intuition the more I've drempt. The more synchronicity has been happening.
I believe out in the external world is just a stimulation room that triggers our thoughts, feelings and actions. Our job is to see what we do in the dynamics to bring about the whole.
I agree with Alx about the timeless now but its one of those things that is difficult for me to grasp fully.
Alx, can you explain your concept further please?
Love and light
Theressa |
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aLx
Joined: 21 Dec 2005 Posts: 137 Location: Philippines
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 3:30 am Post subject: |
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good day!
eyeman,
its always been helpful to reflect upon all the visions and thoughts that comes into us. as to how is it in connection with us, what does it means to us and how does it relates in our present life. please keep us informed so that we will learn together ehre. thanks
theresa,
i am having a hard time grasping the concept too, but sometimes it just came to me so clear and then i will lose it again. (kinda funny).
but let me try...
first, try to realize that what we call time here on earth( ex. day, night, months, years, decades, etc) are nothing but movement in space. try to look at it outside earth, days are just one rotation of the earth , a year is just one complete revolution of earth on its axis around the sun. so it is nothing but movement of earth in space (hope im getting this right)
so time like years, months and years didnt exist if you view it outside of earth perspective. just imagine looking earth from the outside as if you are God, and you will realize that there is no past and present, just the NOW.
so there is no past or present to the ultimate reality perspective, just the eternal NOW. just movements in space, an expanding universe.
please help me on this, just try to raise your points of view so that we can learn together... _________________ If God is our target destination, we cant miss. God is so big. He's everything, we have nowhere else to go. |
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Theressa
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 793 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 11:22 pm Post subject: A vision |
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Hi Alx,
Life is all movement also. As we move we begin to see more and more and begin to become aware of the role we play and the interplay and the result we call reality. We expand in time and space. We are movement in space. Its like we can at first only see the elephants ears and then we move and we begin to see more and more of the elephant and realise our stepping back and seeing our steps and how they unfold.
Its like we have skills and talents and many opportunities to apply those talents in different settings. Thus, our awareness is increase as we see there are many settings we can allow our presence to shine in. Our skills and talents are just our movements/application/acting with the energy within us and moving it in time and space.
Its like a ball just moving in the space we call a room, a garden, a sports hall. The earth is the ball on a larger scale moving in space. So as in a birds eye view to God earth is movement in space.
But what about it all happening now. The past, future, present. Is that we just get to see different aspects at a point in what we call time?
Is it like photo negatives just shown at different stages in a film projector. All of the same holiday but shown and revealed in slow motion?
Together we can become more aware, Yes I agree Alx. Also, agree that at times I think I've gotten a concept only to discover I need to understand it more.
Love and light
Theressa |
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aLx
Joined: 21 Dec 2005 Posts: 137 Location: Philippines
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 3:31 am Post subject: |
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hello,
i really find it hard to explain this concept of "time". indeed the past and the future only exist in our mind, past as memories and future as thoughts. there is only the NOW.
if we are indeed movement in space, then einstein might be right. time is just an illusion and our measurement of our movement in space.
if there is only the NOW, maybe in the ultimate reality all is happening in one moment only. all the past, present and future are just one moment in the ultimate reality.
just a thought, im also having a hard time  _________________ If God is our target destination, we cant miss. God is so big. He's everything, we have nowhere else to go. |
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EYEMAN
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 171 Location: north wales, united kingdom.
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 8:12 am Post subject: Morning theressa, morning alx. |
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Ive bin racking my brain these past couple of days trying to come to terms with timelessness.
I think that as we move through our lives, we learn a lot (obviously) of things we cant understand or fully comprehend.
If we try to understand it we will just come up with answers that sound right never really knowing the truth.
I thouroughly believe each person is god, im not saying that there isnt a higher god that hasnt got all the answers already, there is.
Each person has a different message for us that we come into contact with, but only if were concious of it at the time.
try and stay concious in your everyday life and you will eventually get the meaning to the question eventually. It could be your pet or friend that gives you the inspiration you need, just try and concious.
I hope this hasnt confused any one although when i read it back to myself
i wasnt sure if it would.
I hope to here from you soon and if anyone else can shine a light on this feel free.
Bye for now. _________________ EYEMAN |
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Theressa
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 793 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 10:15 am Post subject: A vision |
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Hi eyeman and alx,
I get what you mean. You mean try not to intellectualise it. But, to let the answers be revealed through synchronicity and intuition. Ask and then wait.
Bye for now
Theressa |
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aLx
Joined: 21 Dec 2005 Posts: 137 Location: Philippines
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 1:38 am Post subject: |
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hello to both of you...
your both right. im trying too hard to absorb things. i realized i failed to experience each insight by trying too hard.
enjoy the visions and insights
good day!  _________________ If God is our target destination, we cant miss. God is so big. He's everything, we have nowhere else to go. |
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EYEMAN
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 171 Location: north wales, united kingdom.
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:38 am Post subject: About my vision |
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Morning all,
Its coming to me finally, my vision at the top of the page.
In my past ive bin known to be very domminent in conversations, and ive left the room with lots of energy and feeling very good about my self.
on the other hand ive also bin oppositley affected.
I never seemed to spare a thought for how others were feeling when i was just leaving, but from now i realise i must.
last night i was talking to friends and i was conciousley trying to keep everbodys ideas flowing by trying to sit in the right place or concentate on there beauty. this worked very well and we stayed in coversation for at least two and a half hours understanding each others point of view.
We were all happy and, for the first time i noticed this on a different level.
I think what im trying to say is that from now on i will try conciously to leave any conversation good or bad with with positive words.
So far on this site ive bin amazed by what people think and how they write it down. and even if we only do this once then weve already learned more than what we already knew.
thanks you two for helping me with your strong words.
keep on thinking.
see you later. _________________ EYEMAN |
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Theressa
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 793 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:49 am Post subject: A Vision |
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Hi Eyeman, Hi Alx,
I am smiling because I to have an issue that I working on that is "Dominating conversations" which is due to anxiety and fear. Yes its all part of trying too hard. Maybe as myself in your childhood you lived in a chaotic environment.
Words are healing when said at the right time. Silence is healing when given at the right time. Balance.
Empathy is the gel that links you from another.
In soul stories by Gary Zuvak (author also of seat of the soul) there is a story about Gary and his co-presenter. They wanted their first retreat to be amazing and peaceful and harmonious. On the last night Gary felt a great need to share his feelings and thoughts with his co-presenter. WHY? because he felt something triggered inside that was holding him back from his co-presenter. On the other hand he knew it might rock the boat and cause disharmony and may spoil the last night. The conflict inside reined. BUT, Gary decided that he loved his co-presenter alot and wanted to remove the barrier and be close once more. He realised the feelings may have nothing to do with his co-presenter and maybe just about him but he needed to share them anyway.
He spoke at the last meeting and shared his thoughts. Some people left others cheered on Gary and still others cheered on the co-presenter. The co-presenter ran from the tent. Gary followed him. The co-presenter asked Gary a question. "is something wrong?" "Gary said No" and the co-presenter walk off. Just then Gary "Shouted Yes something is wrong I feel jealous of you and am afraid others may think you are better than me." Just then the co-presenter began to cry and this triggered Gary and they both cried. Then the co-presenter said "Gary you do not realise what you have healed in me with your honesty. When I was small I would sense my father was annoyed with me and I'd ask "is something wrong and he'd say no but I knew there was and so I felt distant from him." They began to share more and more for hours and cried and cried with each discovery and insight.
Then they returned to the meeting and as they walked in everyone was sharing and crying and smiling and bonding. The atmosphere in the meeting had changed. The faces of the participants had changed. Gary and his co-presenter asked what had happened. A lady spoke up and said "Well we all decided to meditate and then share all our thoughts and feelings." The barriers came down and we began to feel love and closeness and this is the result.
Gary and his co-presenter and everyone else there realise that harmony does not come from surpressing our feelings but from sharing them. Yes disharmony may result at first but later intimacy and harmony will truly be present. We need to be wholly present to connect without barriers. We need to be real and speak our truth and what is triggered with each person every moment and work it through together.
I just wanted to share this.
Love and light
Theressa
~Balance in all things is the goal~
The individual influence the team and the team influences the individual.
The current life influences the soul and expands it and the soul can influence the current life.
Whenever, you are about to do something quietly ask in your mind what is my motivation and listen an answer will come even if you don't want to hear it.
Love and fear is the only two emotions.
Anything that is not accepting what is... is fear. |
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EYEMAN
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 171 Location: north wales, united kingdom.
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:18 pm Post subject: Theressa |
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Yes thats sounds very down to earth and its definatley good to share truths, it would do everyone some real good to even be able to feel that they could share personel details to any degree.
Unfortunatley we even as adults in groups still dont always seem to be able to get over what we learned at schools and in our social lives as children,(bullying and being bullied) its a big viscous circle that can only slow down when the kids realise that there is more to life than what everyone else thinks of them.
Or maybe thats just me?
Not that i was going round hitting people, but i did like to make people laugh at others expense, thinking about that sort of thing now doesnt even bare thinking of, but as we move foward we realise and regret things we have done.
thanks for writing that down, because you now know something about me not many others do, was what you wrote inspired by the way i write things down on this site, i hope not because i would feel guilty towards others and wonder if id offended them.
I like to share opinions with people and see what they think to it broadens my horizon.
Please do say if i come across as controlling as i dont intend to.
Catch you later. _________________ EYEMAN |
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Theressa
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 793 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:57 pm Post subject: A Vision |
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Hi Eyeman,
As children we do many things without really knowing the reason why. We do what we see or maybe we just try a thing and it makes us feel powerful so we try it again. When we are more evolved as adults perhaps we realise this is not true power. BUT, its worth remembering that we do what we have the knowledge to do and so no guilt is necessary.
Yes I to like to share and debate and get others viewpoints. That is good it helps us grow. But, sometimes we need to sit still and listen inside also. Sometimes we can just say I love you silently in our mind. Our presence is what matters and its always felt.
Its about balance.
When we understand that its not the bullying or the event that matters. It is how we feel our emotional reactions that we may need to experience. We needed to have this experience. So no guilt needed.
I got to see my woundness and distorted beliefs and messages I grew up with in my first romantic relationship and my most recent one that lasted four years. The gifts I received was increased awareness.
Now I am more aware I am doing better. I am seeing my behaviour and role and how that contributes to the whole and working on that.
Speak to you soon
Theressa |
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EYEMAN
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 171 Location: north wales, united kingdom.
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:22 pm Post subject: Thanks |
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Yes we do do things from seeing others or believeing its a power.
Im glad your working out how to maintain conciousness in your relationship, take from me its never easy and your energy can be sky high all of a sudden then plummet to the ground in the same minute.
Ive bin in a relationship for thirteen years in june and have to children as well. and we werent prepared for any of what happens, its life, its all a learning experiance.
I wish id found the celestine collection a lot earlier, it would have helped me to prepare for what has gone on in my past, but im still glad ive found it now.
Maybe i wouldnt have understood as well as i think i do now.
Ive just started reading the celestine vision today, and also finished the secret of shambala, which was extremely visionable. a great experience.
I just want to watch the film. Have you seen it.
see you later. _________________ EYEMAN |
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