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kathywmn
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 Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject: Keep It Simple |
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I had an amazing revelation the other day that may be of help to you. It is certainly helping me.
I've been struggling with the "will-power" part of dieting for 10 years. Like you, I have much knowledge about nutrition, dieting, health, and I am capable of listening to what my own body needs. I just don't have the "motivation" or "will-power" to abide by what I know.
It occured to me that my worry over it all is causing the very stress that keeps me from being able to do what is right for me. So I asked myself where the worry is coming from. I realized that in the US, we have made health & dieting & nutrition a very difficult, complicated, media driven, perhaps too important subject. Most of us think about it ALL the time!
Then it came .. the revelation. Here it is:
Eating well (notice I didn't call it dieting) is easy. You put into your body what is healthy for your body and nothing more. That, in and of itself, is not difficult. It is easy.
This concept of "doing what is right is easy" has translated into several areas of my life. It doesn't take long to discover that doing the right thing for your emotions, your body, your finances, your relationships, is much easier than doing something that is questionable or wrong.
It's easier to say NO to a bag of potato chips and YES to an apple if you remember how you'll feel in an hour (not just physically but emotionally, spiritually and mentally).
It's easier to say YES to spending time with a friend and NO to sitting in front of the TV for 2 hours when you remember how it will affect you later.
It's easier to go for a walk then sitting in front of the computer surfing the internet when you remember how flexible and non-bloated you'll feel in the morning.
So ... the whole point is ... keep is simple. Don't let it become more complicated than it is because the attitude in the US says to. |
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Lynn
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| Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:40 am Post subject: |
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kathywmn,
This is amazing!
| Quote: | I just don't have the "motivation" or "will-power" to abide by what I know.
It occured to me that my worry over it all is causing the very stress that keeps me from being able to do what is right for me |
I think just getting back to the basics and making choices that are "easy" because I already know how much better I was when I made those choices is the key to the changes I want to make.
How simple is that! This post is a keeper to read over and over.
Thank you so much,
Lynn |
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Freeman
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:36 am Post subject: |
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| I have just started eating vegitarian for three months now...Both as a food choice and as a religious choice. I have noticed a great increase in energy and over all health. I now realize the importance of eating a good diet. Id also like to stress the point of daily exercise. It is soooooo crucial for being healthy. Im compelely obsessed with riding my bike and I find it helps amazingly with my health. I also try to visit the chiropractor often as well as do daily yoga. For the past years I have delt with lots of aches and pains throughout my body. My fathers genetics gave me the worst posture and suffered a sports related shoulder injury. I have found that the combination of all these things improves my general health and well being greatly. |
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korua
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| Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:15 pm Post subject: RE |
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Eating well (notice I didn't call it dieting) is easy. You put into your body what is healthy for your body and nothing more. That, in and of itself, is not difficult. It is easy.
THAT is a great theory!  thanx for posting that
its a great way of looking at food and eating... but i have one question - what do you do with cravings? (chocolates, cakes, etc.) sometimes they are so strong i personally fail to ignore them. i try to make them go away by eating some fruit, but eventually end up taking a chocolate anyway!  does this happen to anyone.... ??
thanx...
luv. K. xxx |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:01 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | but i have one question - what do you do with cravings? (chocolates, cakes, etc.) sometimes they are so strong i personally fail to ignore them. i try to make them go away by eating some fruit, but eventually end up taking a chocolate anyway! does this happen to anyone.... ??
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I have heard some say that to keep from binging on a certain food like chocolates that they do not deprive themselves and eat a little chocolate now and then. They say this really works for them and they manage to eat a healthy balanced diet even tho, they have some sweet desserts and chocolates.
However, for me the only time I felt really good and my body wasn't gaining weight is when I did not eat refined sugar at all. Once I got it out of my system (detox) I totally lost the craving for chocolates or refined sugar. So one would have to wonder why I ever started back eating them? I started eating sweets at work just because they were there and to be nice to someone who baked and brought us special treats! We always find a way to have a "food party" at work. I also started telling myself that I could eat them and and they would not make me gain weight or cause my energy levels to drop. Soon, I started craving cakes, chocolates and candy again. My problem was that I could not eat just one piece of chocolate fudge or one piece of pie. I wanted to eat until my stomach hurt or until the last piece of candy or pie was gone. Soon, if I got stressed I knew that I could get brief temporary relief if I would have a candy bar or chips and cookie.
I suppose that each of our bodies function differently and we have to pay attention to what works for us. I know that when I was eating the food as suggested in the Celestine Prophecy books I had so much more energy. My body wanted to get out in nature and enjoy. I am trying to remember that now so that I can help myself back to that.
And I am happy to say that I beginning to make those choices again! Its been slow but each day I am doing better. Yesterday, I went into the grocery store and told myself "This is easy, just walk over to the fresh produce section and choose fresh pretty vegges!" So I got zhuchinni and lima beans. I cooked them up and ohhhh soooo very good! Yummy!
At work tonight, I had no desire to go to the snack machine and get two candy bars and a bag of chips and cola! (For the last year, I was doing that at least three times a day. Then after work I would stop at fast food joints for a fix on the way home. Later at home, I would watch tv and then rapidly make and eat sandwiches.) It is a maddening addiction. I was very, very depressed and just sat around watching tv unless I was getting up to get a snack.
I am setting an intention to change that and I am so grateful for this forum the rest of this informative website. It helps me clarify what I want. I feel the supporting energy from here as I make these changes.
Lynn |
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Lynn
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Freeman wrote:
| Quote: | | have just started eating vegitarian for three months now...Both as a food choice and as a religious choice. I have noticed a great increase in energy and over all health. I now realize the importance of eating a good diet. Id also like to stress the point of daily exercise. It is soooooo crucial for being healthy. Im compelely obsessed with riding my bike and I find it helps amazingly with my health. |
This sounds so very nice! Thanks!
Lynn |
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sister goshe
Joined: 18 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:49 pm Post subject: what is working for me |
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WILL POWER:
I have been listening to the 3rd Chapter of The Secret of Shambala on tape over and over again. I have put little pieces of paper with one line statements about why eating right is what I want to do in places where I need to remember. I have been making sure I have plenty of fresh vegetables and have stopped buying chips and cookies. I have been studying information about body pH, metabolism and energy centers. I am immersing myself in what I need to get into my head. I have been developing "mantras" to use when I need help. I teach others and it reinforces what I believe and I am encumbered to live it.
Here's to sucess for EVERYONE WHO TRIES to develop the habit of good eating! This will only furthur facilitate the coincidences for us all! Expect miracles!
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Theressa
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| Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:56 pm Post subject: Celestine Food |
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Hi Lynn,
Sugar as you know is addictive, not sure about salt. After you stop having sugar for a while you stop craving it. Your taste buds as you may already get used to wholegrains etc after a while.
Hope this helps
Blessings
Theressa |
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Sarah1
Joined: 08 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:41 am Post subject: from Lynn |
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Thank you so much Theressa.
I have been finding that what you say is true about the sugar. After a couple of months of leaving it off, it is so very nice not to even want the sugar!! I feel freedom. Indeed for me, it was extremely addicting. I had gotten to the point that I had closed off almost everything except to get to that next "sugar" fix.
I am again seeing extraordinary beauty in the sky, moon, sunrise, and plants and trees. I feel alive again.
Sister G. I read your post several times. It helped a lot.
Lynn (Sarah1) one and the same |
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Petra
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: Keep It Simple |
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| kathywmn wrote: |
It's easier to go for a walk then sitting in front of the computer surfing the internet when you remember how flexible and non-bloated you'll feel in the morning.
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I laughed when I read this! Thanks for the reminder! It's such a warm and sunny spring day too! Thanks Kathywmn,
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eggnostic
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| Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:20 pm Post subject: cravings |
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Lynn,
I have been reading a lot of questions about what to do with cravings, etc. From my experience, the nature of a craving is similar whether we are talking about food, alcohol, sex, et al. That is just something to think about - perhaps you have had a craving in the past that developed into an addiction, but you overcame it - if that is the case then how did you do it? Perhaps some of the same techniques and methods you used to overcome that other craving can also be used to help you eat healthier.
In light of maintaining a bigger perspective on things, i'd like to refer to what Ken Wilber calls *states* and *stages*. It is very useful differentiate between the two, where you are in your life. A state is generally a very short period of time where you may, for example, find yourself with ample motivation and willpower to eat healthy, go to sleep on time, get up ready to go, meditate every day, etc. It's a great feeling to be right on target! Very frustrating though, when suddenly you don't find yourself able to live that way anymore... *States* are very temporary. A *stage* on the other hand can be a much slower and subtle process, much more dependable but also requiring more time and effort to achieve.
So how does that relate to the question about getting back on the celestine diet? I think its very relevant. It seems to me that you got very excited about that diet, and it worked awesome for you. During those peak *states* there tends to be a lot of energy involved - but soon the energy wanes - and since you havn't practiced living that way for your whole life, many of the old ways come back. That can be a real downer, but keep your chin up because now you know what you are working towards. It might require a lot of contemplation and insight on your part, but i'm sure that you and only you can discover exactly what it takes to move your life into a new *stage* that will make you more happy.
My biggest suggestion would be to try and break out a little bit and allow yourself to do a little research in other wisdom traditions, the celestine system has some great stuff to go on, but its definitely not a be-all end-all solution to all of lifes problems:) Taking up an older and time-honored meditative/contemplative practice (such as shambhala, insight meditation, TM, etc) in addition to your work in the celestine system would most likely be very rewarding.
Also, a phenomenal book with groundbreaking research along the lines of permanent vs. temporary changes is called "changing for good", by James O. Prochaska, ph.d, john c. norcross, ph.d, carlo c. diclemente, ph.d - its actually an easy but involving read, and may be worth looking into.
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eggnostic
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| Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject: gods-eye-view |
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Kathywmn,
| Quote: | It's easier to say NO to a bag of potato chips and YES to an apple if you remember how you'll feel in an hour (not just physically but emotionally, spiritually and mentally).
It's easier to say YES to spending time with a friend and NO to sitting in front of the TV for 2 hours when you remember how it will affect you later.
It's easier to go for a walk then sitting in front of the computer surfing the internet when you remember how flexible and non-bloated you'll feel in the morning. |
Hi. I think you've made some great points here. I'd just like to expand a little bit on what you said. I can't help but notice that all of these were conditional statements: "its easy to do this IF you remember why its a good idea".
So I think its very important to focus a bit on the second part of those statements, because if someone chooses not to recall how beneficial the activity is, then its easy not to do it! Its like smoking a cigarette, and automatically supressing that rational voice that is screaming "stop! this is killing you!" - if you let that voice speak then like you said, it would not be possible to smoke the cigarette at all! --- so I think the fact that many of us ignore that voice so often might be the only obstacle left that is preventing us from making those changes.
The difficulty, i think, comes from the fact that that voice, and our tendency to silence it, is usually an automatic/unconscious process.
The only way i've found to overcome that is is a contemplative technique that has to do with cultivating a complete willingness to be here and now, hear yourself out, and pay attention to the quality of all your feelings. A terrifying thought, actually, but if you are willing to be present and mindfull, no matter how painful it might feel, then you can not ignore that voice. |
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musclechic2001
Joined: 19 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: Chapter 3 |
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| sister goshe wrote: | In the Celestine Prophecy I think it's in Chapter 3. Foods that aren't dead. That have high energy. There are suggestion about chewing your food and eating more slowly- really tasting your food and being concious of what you are eating. Prayers before we eat are designed to raise our energy to a more concious state upon eating. The Secret of Shambala, Chapter 2, I think, also talk about diet.
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I know there was some concern over whether one was getting enough calories when using the suggested eating guidelines in Celestine Prophecy. On the flip side, I compete as a professional athlete in figure (a softer division of bodybuilding). And while "dieting down" to prepare for my competition I eat more live foods, mainly vegetables, to get in the quantity of food but with much less calories. My point is that when the competition is close the calorie intake with VERY low, the hunger is high, the energy is low, but it's something a competitor just goes through to get ready. We also eat slower to make sure we get every nutrient out of what we eat. And in that state of heightened awareness for food, I could taste the flavor in the foods I was eating SO MUCH MORE, which were all plain with no seasoning. I could taste the sweetness of lettuce. It was actually an amazing revelation that made this way of eating really hit home with me.
Alternatively, once I'm on break over the holidays and I put on a little more weight and get back to "normal". I find that I can't eat plain anymore, that I crave the salty, the sweet, the spicey. I can't just eat plain chicken, plain fish, plain broccoli, plain lettuce, etc. And I realize I am also eating too much and too fast.
So there's my perspective for what it's worth. I appreciate this thread. Thank you. |
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musclechic2001
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| Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: RE |
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| korua wrote: | Eating well (notice I didn't call it dieting) is easy. You put into your body what is healthy for your body and nothing more. That, in and of itself, is not difficult. It is easy.
THAT is a great theory! thanx for posting that
its a great way of looking at food and eating... but i have one question - what do you do with cravings? (chocolates, cakes, etc.) sometimes they are so strong i personally fail to ignore them. i try to make them go away by eating some fruit, but eventually end up taking a chocolate anyway! does this happen to anyone.... ??
thanx...
luv. K. xxx |
I use the phrase, "Food is fuel". I think it came from Bill Phillips in "Body for LIFE". (which is a VERY basic and easy nutrition plan, not a crash diet). But "Food is fuel" means that food is not comfort, food is not for boredom, food isn't even for celebration (since when was binging and stuffing one's body with as much unhealthy food as possible a celebration?)
Food is fuel. Nothing more. So are you going to put cheap gas in the only vehicle you've got on this earth plane? Or are you going to put the best, cleanest, high test fuel you can find in the ONLY vehicle you've got on this earth plane? And reincarnation isn't an excuse.  LOL! |
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Theressa
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| Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:28 am Post subject: Celestine Food |
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Hi All,
Some great advice here.
I know when my eating goes kaput! Its when I am out of balance. I may be doing too much mental stuff e.g reading or busyness such as at a meeting all day. Its like I am in another mode and I am switched off from conscious action.
But, there are also times when I feel down and can't be bothered to walk to the shops to buy fresh fruit and veg. Then I eat what is in the house. I no longer buy alot of crisps and sweets. But, an icecream from my daughter or partner is inviting when I've felt lonely and fed up all day. I know when I am down and stay in pyjamas the whole day. Then my daughter comes home from school and looks at me and I feel guilty because I've spent the whole day doing not much really. Or rather no housework and then I have to do a mad rush because of what she must think of me. Such as "You have been home all day but done no washing". I feel I have too much alone time. I have little money so I can't afford to travel to places. The courses are all costing more money. The course I took the last few years were free or subsidised. I had savings to fall back on, now they are gone. All my friends are working or students but seem to have money.
I used to be so busy. I used to complain of having courses everyday and no time for anyone or to do the housework. Recently, I've had so much time and yet I put off the housework. I spend the day on the internet reading or reading books. Everyone else seems busy. I used to be so
co-dependent and responsible for others. Now I know the big gap this filled.
I find myself so excited when I have my parent group I facilitate on once a week. This is the main day I have something to fill it that I feel is making a difference.
I just needed to share this.
Blessings
Theressa |
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