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EYEMAN
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 171 Location: north wales, united kingdom.
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Hello there,
thanks for the run down on the book theressa, i still dont think my girlfriend will read the celestine prophecy, although i will keep pestering her. Its obviously not her time but she will get there im sure.
im glad your feeling good again, sometimes its hard work staying positive but when your feeling down and you feel your at a dead end just get in touch with this site and there are always people ready to cheer you up, and that goes for anyone else out there.
ive bin feeling really good about myself recently and i think its because theres other people to listen to me and also voice true opinions on any matter, keep up the good work everyone and give yourselves a big hug from me. _________________ EYEMAN |
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Theressa
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 793 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 10:49 pm Post subject: A Vision |
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Hi Eyeman,
Pestering someone to read a book even if it is the celestine prophecy is behaving controlling. It is us saying we know what is right for another when we don't really! It is very difficult at times when we feel a great urge to make someones life better and if only they'd come around to our way of thinking and do it our way everything would be better! Or would it?
There are many ways we grow and get the message and somethings help some people wake up and other things help other people wake up. BUT, by far the best way is by example. I learnt that here on this website. All my pushing and encouraging and begging my ex to read this or do that never WORKED it just made it even less likely that he'd wake up.
Most of the time our greatest lesson is learning to self control. To control our own reactions to our mates. Work on the reactions and feelings that come up for you surrounding her reading the book or not?
If she never read the book would you still want to be with her?
You see people are exactly as they need to be in each moment for us and them to grow. Maybe your lesson is about self control and not about getting another to read a book or not.
The same goes for you why is it so important that you both read a book that helps the other?
What if you believed that the messages and lessons would come from the right resources and sources without anyone feeling obliged to read any book suggested by another?
I used to suggest books to one of my friends. Infact only last week I told her about the celestine prophecy and she said she did not feel she wanted to read it. Then I suggested the DVD and she said yeah we could sit and watch it together. Then I let it go. I did not insist that she must read the celestine prophecy. I know from experience the more I try to force my ways on others the more they resist.
Just my thoughts!!
I am feeling really good at the moment. I have so much support and many people in my life now to discuss things that are important to me. My reiki community group is developing and we are going to be offering free treatments from next week to local community groups.
I am so grateful that I have such a wonderful life!!!
Love and light
Theressa |
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EYEMAN
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 171 Location: north wales, united kingdom.
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 11:48 am Post subject: Cheers chick |
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I understand what your saying and im not gunna pester any more, although when i say particular words i dont nescesarily mean them as harsh as they sound and come across to others.
my upbringing the way it was, was quite harsh as it stands, and i was sort of left to find out about life the hard way, as my dad left before i was born, im not looking for sympathy, im just trying to let you know a little more about me.
youre right on the assumption of me perhaps being a little controlling, but since ive been learning from the celestine books i have taken a step back in that side of me.
Even if my partner doesnt read the books im in to we wont split up for that reason as she is already very spiritual in a good way.
I thank you for your words and i will take another step back when i seem to be doing this again. _________________ EYEMAN |
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Theressa
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 793 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 1:25 pm Post subject: A Vision |
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Hi Eyeman,
We are all a bit controlling as we are all fearful sometimes. A quote I just read says "It's the resistance to accept what is that causes us the most suffering".
I guess it catching ourselves that is important and becoming more aware of our actions, how we explain things to ourselves, and our words.
I hear you! and I to did not really have my father in a way that was ideal. He has mental health issues. I know how difficult it can be when we have not seen modelled to us that which we want to be!
But, with the awareness you have you can see the results of your behaviours and modify them to create what you both want. My new belief is that its about joining energies to create something as a team. Its also about being aware of the team players since its what is done collectively that will result.
Be kind to yourself and see that when you begin to control its about fear. Then see your partner in the hands of GOD/Universe. When we grow up in less than ideal circumstances we learn ways to survive that are not always the best ways. This is what everyone hear talks about letting go and being kind to our fearful parts.
I to am not amune to fear. Sometimes I get fearful when things are not as I wish but I am realising more and more that there is a larger plan taking place and unfolding. My visualisations add positive vibes to the larger plan even if what results is not what I expected. I do get to see me in action and the collective results.
As time goes on we get to recognise more and more that we are all very similar and fear similar things. For me being alone and fearing no one wanted to be with me or have my company was a big issue for along time. I am coming to terms with this fear and recognising it as a distortion that it is. People are busy but one can always plan stuff and thus, fit things in that they value.
Sharing what we are feeling with a loved one can be very helpful. Both get to grow in intimacy and break the illusion that its not okay to be human. e.g "Fear is triggered in me right now, I am thinking xxxx" then a discussion can result. It is mega important to spend time together in discussions and enjoying one anothers company without the kids. Its sharing our inner worlds.
By sharing our inner worlds we get to see that we are okay. We can be accepted. We are loved.
My thoughts
Love and light
Theressa |
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EYEMAN
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 171 Location: north wales, united kingdom.
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Well it seems we have even more in common, as my gran used to stay with me when i was young, and she was mentally ill(she had skitzafrenia, dont think ive spelled it right but you understand).
its hard when you dont understand something at that age and youre right you do find ways to deal with the situation.
I bet some of the things youre father said to you when you were young really made you think at the time, i know i did.
At the top of the page there is a part that says user groups, does anyone know anything about them and what there about? _________________ EYEMAN |
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Theressa
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 793 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:58 pm Post subject: A vision |
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Hi Eyeman,
I've never really noticed the usergroups but I know in real time services have user groups who make suggestions about things so maybe its there for the future. Who knows?
Love and light
Theressa |
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aLx
Joined: 21 Dec 2005 Posts: 137 Location: Philippines
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 1:37 am Post subject: |
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| EYEMAN wrote: | Well it seems we have even more in common, as my gran used to stay with me when i was young, and she was mentally ill(she had skitzafrenia, dont think ive spelled it right but you understand).
its hard when you dont understand something at that age and youre right you do find ways to deal with the situation.
I bet some of the things youre father said to you when you were young really made you think at the time, i know i did.
At the top of the page there is a part that says user groups, does anyone know anything about them and what there about? |
hi,
just click the FAQ(Frequently Asked Questions) part which is also near that user groups that you mentioned. There is a section there that explains what user groups are.
God bless  _________________ If God is our target destination, we cant miss. God is so big. He's everything, we have nowhere else to go. |
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itramsivad
Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 9 Location: CA
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:10 am Post subject: A Vision... |
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| Isn't it a matter of perspective? If, in dreams/visions, we are able to move outside of ourselves, seeing things, ideas, ourselves from a different perspective, doesn't it allow us a "shift"? Standing on this orb, I have a limited perspective. If I am standing on the moon, having changed my perspective, looking at earth, it becomes something quite different. I have "shifted" my perspective/perception. I can hold the world in my hand or balance it on the tip of my finger. I can see things that this world limits me from seeing. Time, falls away. Time is man's reference point to where he is in the world. Leave the world and there is no time. Traveling at the speed of light, one can be where one wants to be before one can finish the thought. No limitations...eternal. |
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EYEMAN
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 171 Location: north wales, united kingdom.
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:19 am Post subject: I suppose |
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Hi there itramsivad,
in my vision, the one that sticks out in my mind the most, happened in a split second and i didnt try to think it up.
so i think if you put effort into putting yourself somewhere else in tme, then you can, but its seems a lot more significant if it just comes out of the blue and actually causes something in you to slightly change your perspective on actual events that occur.
Thats the reason why were are talking today.
Imagination is a powerful tool if used in a good way and elaborated on in actual time to benifit everyone. hello again man. _________________ EYEMAN |
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EYEMAN
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 171 Location: north wales, united kingdom.
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks alx,
i checked the FAQ, i never thought of that, cheers. _________________ EYEMAN |
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itramsivad
Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 9 Location: CA
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: A Vision... |
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Hi, EYEMAN,
I see "beings" as diamonds. Coming into this existance, we are rough and uncut. Through life, experiences, this existance chips away the rough edges. With each chip. a new facet is formed, each facet reflecting the inner beauty of the stone. The more cutting way, the more facets exposed reflecting back to us, the "true" beauty that lies within. If you look at a cut diamond in the sun, slowly turning it, the facets reflect back to your eyes the inner beauty of that diamond...no two ever the same. I think that maybe the things that are percieved as "from outside" are possibly the "sparkle" of our beings, being reflected back to us by the universe showing us the "true" beauty that lies within. |
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EYEMAN
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 171 Location: north wales, united kingdom.
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Hello Itramsivad,
i think i know what your saying, unfortunatley i think slightly different, when were born to our parents we begin as pure as possible, but sadly our family and there friends and even strangers around as we are being brought up, dont understand what their doing to us conciously.
we learn everything we know and do from these people, and take it into adult hood, (we cant start rough around the edeges we must get ther eventually) then we begin to understand that what we are doing is not quite what we could be doing, if you know what i mean.
theres good and bad in all people, they have to learn in there selves which way to go, but theres not enough guidence for everyone at the moment, but as more and more people realize whats going on, will all become guides for ourselves and for others around us.
diamonds are very beutiful, and so are we, if only everyone realized ay. _________________ EYEMAN |
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Theressa
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 793 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 12:09 am Post subject: A vision |
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Hi Eyeman,
I agree with you. I think it is our conditioning that we end up working on the whole of our adult hood. The Carl Rogers Person centred theory from counselling.
I think we are meant however, to be given our conditioning so that we might learn and change our childhood experiences and thus, grow through working this out. All this expands and shapes our soul. Our soul choses our conditioning so thus, we can work out a better way as adults. Some of us take up this challenge and still others don't and get stuck in the conditioning phase. This is where control dramas last.
However, some of us begin to become consciously aware of our conditioning and thus, change the behaviours and interpretations that don't work for us.
Its like yourselves Eyeman at first on this site you were afraid to offend others with your words however, you began to realise actually your words are powerful and infact very necessary for they stimulate and trigger just the right words for those who read them so they might become aware of their internal conditioning that they had took in of which they become aware of through being trigger by the words and actions of every person they come into contact with after childhood.
This is why every person is a gift to our souls.
I can see your awareness expanding Eyeman with every post. Keep it up!!
I can see this thread is as it states expanding our visions of what it is to be alive and human on this planet.
For me many are showing me how their unrealistic expectations are reflecting the hard time I give myself sometimes. For dear friends I am but human. Would you think so however, if you saw how hard the people way above me are behaving? NO. Certainly not. I am suppose to move people and mountains it seems. Your targets my girl what happened? Well my dears. I can take people to water but I can't make them drink, nor can I make others refer them to drink. But, you authority figures expect the impossible and keep getting disappointed. Why? because you want me to be like you all a charltan. But, I can't be. I can only be me.
The frustration I have right now is with others unrealistic targets and expectations. They pretend to want to help the vulnerable. But, forget it is hard to climb out of criminal activity and change your destiny. Do they see my results? NO. They only see that i am not treating others as cattle at a cattle market.
One day I will work for myself. I promise and no one will stop me living my true spiritual path, but for now I have to convince the unaware that I am giving a quality service. But, they want targets not to help people.
Any ideas how one can help people and still meet targets??? All insights welcome?
Love and light
Theressa x |
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EYEMAN
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 171 Location: north wales, united kingdom.
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Morning theressa ,
THanks for giving me the confidence to carry on putting posts on, i did think id offended you the other day, but perhaps not after all.
my advice is to carry on as your doing now, but remember that theres lots of people who dont learn after there mistakes, firstly, concentrate on number one( YOU ), then as your doing this, people will come to you unexpectedley for intuitions and they wont even know there doing it.
ive found that when im talking to people in general i sometimes say silly things that didnt come out right and people laugh at me, ive learned not to take it personally and i can laugh with them.
Remember were on a path, the thinner the better, but at times its shapes like a tree and it grows naturally out of shape, when you get the chance, if it is possible, talk to the older lady about what you are going through when she is being a bit horrible, and keep in mind all the time on how beutiful she is, do this when your alone together, perhaps choose her as a partner at your class.
I think as we get older, say 50 plus, we get stuck in our ways and dont think the children of today are any good, hence the saying when i were a lad, or lass. just try and imagine what they have bin through.
After all there why were here.
The criminals are our friends to, even though we cant begin to comprehend why they do what they do, just give your opinion when you feel the need, dont forget tere walking the path to.
see ya soon dude. _________________ EYEMAN |
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EYEMAN
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 171 Location: north wales, united kingdom.
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 3:14 pm Post subject: Saw the film |
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well hello everyone,
ive finally watched the film, and i didnt think it was as good as the book, but thats what i expected, the films are nver as good as the books are they.
If your going to watch it keep your eyes peeled for a guest appearence, on the whole its a good film and it will get more people involved but it seems to miss some chunks of film, im just wondering, on this site it says the film is on for one hour and thirty nine minutes, but when iwatched it, it was ten minutes less. does anybody know why.
Anyway i hope your all doing ok in life just lateley, mine is going fine.
see you all soon. _________________ EYEMAN |
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