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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 2:34 am    Post subject: my brother was killed,how can I help him now? Reply with quote

FRIENDS,I NEED YOUR HELP!

I read the 10th insight long ago,and it seems now it's time to test my faith :my brother was killed last night.

he was kind to those he considered friends ,lots sympathy for the weak, but also very aggressive to the others,after about ten years of living this kind of life,and being somehow a "Somebody"in our little town,he was finnally killed in a fight.

as i read in 10th,I'm afraid he will be still trangling in a violent illusion,I'd like to sacrifice my life to save him,but I'm not sure what i can do for him,all i can do is keep visualiazing the light ,full of unconditional love and energy filling him up ,and keep teaching him all the truth i've learnt ,but can he really receive it?does it really work??
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm deeply sorry for your loss.

My condolances..



My mother died a few years ago, sadly after being trapped in a coma for a while.

2 days after she passed away, she came to me, and I could see her as clear as anything.

She was saying goodbye to me, before she left, and that she was safe now.

I know she had my uncle with her, for I have Prayed for him to come to take care of his sister while she was in coma.



So I suggest you Pray to get someone dead, that you know he loved dearly, to come down and meet him, comfort him, and to help him return safely, to where we all come from.And do continue to Visualize as you do.

(thats what I mean by Praying)

use your intuition AND your empathy. These ar your tools of measure.



This is what I truly believe

Best Wishes from

Dr.No.

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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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he was kind to those he considered friends ,lots sympathy for the weak




I think this overpowers the illusion of violence that might possibly entrap your brother. Jesus, also had great, great sympathy for the weak, got mad at those who exploited them and died a violent death. Is He trapped there.......... in that violence?? No, no....



I have interacted with my daughter on the other side and some great things have happened as a result.



But even though I know she exists and life is real there, one of the great appeals of the Celestine books is that if we can facilitate the higher frequency vibrations then life and death cycle as we know it will end.
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 2:35 am    Post subject: THANK YOU Reply with quote

DR.NO,Sarah1

quite gratified seeing your words of compassion,I learnt from you alot,maybe my grandpa and uncle are waiting to take him home,I'm waiting for the interaction...
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:07 am    Post subject: Re: my brother was killed,how can I help him now? Reply with quote

johnny wrote:
FRIENDS,I NEED YOUR HELP!

I read the 10th insight long ago,and it seems now it's time to test my faith :my brother was killed last night.

he was kind to those he considered friends ,lots sympathy for the weak, but also very aggressive to the others,after about ten years of living this kind of life,and being somehow a "Somebody"in our little town,he was finnally killed in a fight.

as i read in 10th,I'm afraid he will be still trangling in a violent illusion,I'd like to sacrifice my life to save him,but I'm not sure what i can do for him,all i can do is keep visualiazing the light ,full of unconditional love and energy filling him up ,and keep teaching him all the truth i've learnt ,but can he really receive it?does it really work??






Johnny



Sometimes I can pick up things from beyond



It is never totaly clear ..... what I pick up is like vibrations or feelings .... there is information there .....but it takes some translating .



I spent a few minutes trying to see if I could pick up anything about your brother .



If I am getting this right , you have had a couple of dreams about him . also I think there was one time when you were not sleeping .... I am not sure if you would call this daydreaming or imagiining



In all of these " dreams " you could actually FEEL that he was alright .



these were not dreams ........ they were VISITS



He was with you .........trying to comfort you .









life in the physical is temporary ......love is eternall







gary
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 7:25 am    Post subject: Re: my brother was killed,how can I help him now? Reply with quote

oldsoul wrote:
I spent a few minutes trying to see if I could pick up anything about your brother .



If I am getting this right , you have had a couple of dreams about him . also I think there was one time when you were not sleeping .... I am not sure if you would call this daydreaming or imagiining



In all of these " dreams " you could actually FEEL that he was alright .



these were not dreams ........ they were VISITS



He was with you .........trying to comfort you .

life in the physical is temporary ......love is eternall

gary




Mr oldsoul,thank you for taking the time taking care of my brother,all these nights I've been waiting for him ,but he never appear in my dreams.

and in daytime ,when I'm praying for him to come ,I can feel he's with me ,with a comforting sunny smile,keep telling me he's alright,I can almost hear his voice,loud and clear, but not by my physical ear.and I just can't tell if it's real or just my own imagination,becuz when I ask for some signs,there's nothing...
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: my brother was killed,how can I help him now? Reply with quote

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and in daytime ,when I'm praying for him to come ,I can feel he's with me ,with a comforting sunny smile,keep telling me he's alright,I can almost hear his voice,loud and clear, but not by my physical ear.and I just can't tell if it's real or just my own imagination,becuz when I ask for some signs,there's nothing...




Johnny





Your brother is no longer in physical form .........but he is still with you.



He can no longer tap you on the sholder and say ,.its really me



The physical is hard and loud compaaredto the spiritual .



you will have to just get used to the fact that your brothers comunication with you will be soft and quiet now .



Yes ....... a visit can be easy to confuse with imagination . In fact anyone that doesn not like the idea of you still comunicating with your brother WILL work to convence you that it is all in your imagination ...... you are the only one that can decide.

I have experienced this kind of thing enough that I KNOW it happens .

the choice you have before you is a simple one ....... you can either choose to be comforted by the quiet loving thoughts from your brother ........or choose to believe he is totally gone.



he is trying to show you he is still with you ........but he can only come so far ....... he can no longer shout to get your attention ........the best he can do is more like a loving whisper in your mind





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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:46 am    Post subject: Re: my brother was killed,how can I help him now? Reply with quote

I see,thank you so much for your wisom and love,I cannot say more words,becuz my eyes full of tears,he always like to shout at me to get my attention...
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 1:55 am    Post subject: Re: my brother was killed,how can I help him now? Reply with quote

johnny wrote:
I see,thank you so much for your wisom and love,I cannot say more words,becuz my eyes full of tears,he always like to shout at me to get my attention...




I was reading your post ...... I suddenly got the feeling that your brother had a different name for you .....

At first I saw a dark teddy bear ......almost black .

Now I am getting " the little ones teddy bear "



I think the little one calls the teddybear a name similar to what your brother called you . I can't pick up what the name is .....but he is laughing Smile



I think there is something special about the bear

I think it is new to the little one .........but not new .

He wants to thank the giver of the bear .









Smile





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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:36 pm    Post subject: Death is only an illusion ask the Dali Lama Reply with quote

Have you considered how the good die early?

Or how this is known of as the foot stool of God?

So when God is life and energy and the source of light that shines into every atom, then believing in safe journey for ancestors and to a good next life is a good practise.

Often you can see and feel this and coincidences can be shown in you, if you are free of EGO and trust the God of life as in death is a trap for many who sleep, and need a tree or a fruit seed to spread atoms of the soul.

As the coincidences like this happen outside of time and that means having to have seen well advanced of time also with some situation, we seen so we have no explanation for it other then this.

Also helps to realise that Adam is atom and eve is breath of life and this is quark in an atom that makes it animated as we perceive this reality.

Helps if you wish to pass the 9th dimension in consciousness, to remove the lies in society as this causes chaos and apart to this means genesis is in fact Egyptian or older.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jonnhy, I hope I am late for a reply. I hope you have found answers since the last post, but I can't help but to add my opinion about this. Has not only you, but everyone in the family sleeping well? Does anyone in the family feel any odd anxieties or any other odd feelings?. All these post are very beautiful and uplifting, much of what you need after the death of your brother but the truth is, he did die young and unexpectedly and we all know that can be a problem. Your concern is very clear. You are an extremely concious person for worrying about him, because I know for a fact that souls do create their own reality and it may even take years for you guys to realize this is going on. The fact that you don't sense him around you does not mean that he is in a good place, remember that he might not even know he's passed. I am going to give you a suggestion of something very simple you can do to give him light and to help him elevate higher into his current dimension. Get a clear glass of water and dedicate it to him. Place this glass of water, say on top of your kitchen counter, a regular table, etc. The next day move the glass of water to a higher place in the house. The next days do the same until you can place the glass as high as possible. Also, everyday light a candle in his name. This is a very, very effective way to giving them light.

I don't know your background, but please, if you do or anyone in the family feel the slightest doubt about where he is, do not hesitate to contact a good medium who can contact him just to make sure he is in a good place, because if not, you can help him.

I hope I don't sound like I'm been too tragic, I just been honest and realistic because my family just went through something of this sort.

I hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As illustrated in the tenth insight, there is light, both coming from inside of a person that enlightens and "untraps/frees" them and from the source of all light from the higher-self of the person there is the light that would guide every single soul who is trapped in their own agony and dispair. I don't understand why people would need you to put a glass of water for them after they die, since if there is anything left for them to need, they need to forgive and understand, so that they may proceed in their development futher and reincarnate in other lives.



If you want to belive into anything believe that the creator is compassionate and trust your brother to his hands. Nothing in the universe happens by chance, as so we are all loved so we are all protected.



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The insights are beautiful, but who and where they come from. There is so much, much more to the mysteries of this world than these insights. Sure, it is better, easier to see everything perfect and beautiful in a pursuit to change our world view, but in the meantime and most definitely throughout our lifetime negativity and evil, created by ourselves, still does exists and unfortunately, due to this, there are not some, but many, many souls that are trapped in agony and despair and this is a fact that I do not intend to get into in this site because we want to change the world view. The Tenth Insight also talks very clearly about these lost souls and you can find that in page 176 to page 180 and they also do talk about souls that do not know they have passed, due to difficulties in death transitions in many cases from sudden death.

I read to learn and grow as a spiritual being, but unfortunaly at this point, we are still far a world without evil, and yes, talking about it only strenghthes it, but would sure not ignore the possibility if God forbid, one of my family members died this way.

Jonnhy, there is a reason why you are concerned about your brother, follow your intuitions. You are 100% right about being concerned about your brother and you can help him if this is his case. Pursuit beauty and positivity but not be blinded by it in a situation like this.

God bless you and your family.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Embraced,



It seems the Design of the Universe is perfect indeed, and in case you may have missed the point of the insights the Universe has a purpose to exist. We as every other living being in this universe have a purpose to serve too. If we call the laws that keep and guard the workings of both the material and spiritual realities of the universe, something in effect of "Universal laws" isn't it just logical, that whoever the great being with it's immense powers who has created the universe, enforces these laws to protect and help us, so that we may serve our purpose better? Didn't the greatest man of all the men of our planet say, "Seek and you shall find"?



Hmm... If I would talk of myself and my experiences then I say the best way to get rid of evil is to increase your understanding by simply using your intellect. Many people follow the flock, and live like Zombies on auto-pilot, while every devine experience requires the individuals to take their own individual path up their own progress in the universe.



Do see the light that J.R. is bringing to the world? Do you think he's alone?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nima, I clearly see what J. R. is doing here, and as a matter of fact I am trying to apply his suggestions to my everyday life. I also signed up with this interactive forum to share and learn from other very intellectual people without critizicing their religious backgrounds and opinions. The universe is perfect but we are not.

Perhaps in the future we can discuss this issue with Redfield eventhough it was clearly presented in his The Tenth Insight, An Experiential Guide. Perhaps you did not get a chance to read this book or chose to ignore that whole section, and that's perfectly fine, since we are allowed to create our own reality as suggested by J. R., and in doing so you are helping change the world view.

Before I go I'd like to share 2 quotes from the book regarding this lost souls issue written by James and Carol, and in which I do find nothing but intellect.

"If we choose to live in darkness, while on earth, if we choose to allow the light to diminish, then we choose a dark place. But always it is our choice.". Page 173. We do control that light you mentioned earlier, and not the universe.



"Furthermore if we do not realize right away that we have left the material plane, that we are indeed dead, we will continue to recreate those mental obsessions endlessly in the spiritual realm". Page 173



"An example of someone who doesn't realize he is dead and is still caught up in his obsessive agenda is brought to us by Robert Monroe, in one of his many out-of-body excursions into the nonphysical dimensions. After many years of traveling in the spiritual realm having received much guidance from discarnate guides, Monroe found that he began to be drawn to souls experiencing difficulty in their death transition". Page 178



"The Tenth Insight suggest that if one encounters a poltergeist or "ghost", it is helpful to understand that bthey are lost souls, rather than feeling afraid or vulnerable to them". Page 178. The Tength insight clearly recognizes the fact that there are lost and confused souls.



This is not my opinion. The above were all qouted directly from James and Carol's book. Quotes which I firmly believe due to extensive exposure to spiritual religions throughout my life. You do not have to believe in these theories only because J.R. does, in fact ignoring these beliefs is a good approach to changing the world view, but unfortunatelly as I mentioned earlier, this beautiful celestine prophecy is not going to happen during our lifetime. Helping save these souls is also necessary for this to happen since as we know, energy can not be destroyed Very Happy .
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