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weibin
Joined: 29 Aug 2006 Posts: 7
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:10 am Post subject: Is everything the book said real? |
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The book said that you could see energy around the world. But I could not see anything. Is that because I have eaten too much meat? I don't want to be a vegetarian. It seems that energy is on the plants, we animals have to depend on plants to get energy. How about if I live in a big city where there are few trees or other plants? Do we have to get energy from other people? Perhaps there are some other ways. Could we get energy from TV or movies? We see movies such as The Celestine Prophecy itself in which there are a lot of beautiful images of forests. Will we get energy from that? In that way, we could get energy only from TV or movies. Is there any other way we could get energy? I just feel uncomfortable when I am around the highrises. Some cities have very bad design. Maybe I should travel just like the man in the book. Find something exciting and interesting. But money is the problem. Does James Redfield forsee that at the time when everyone's energy reach the point human beings are no longer need money? I am waiting for that day coming. Maybe it's just a nice story, nothing more.  |
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michellepetkus
Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 809 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:59 am Post subject: |
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Hi Weibin,
Everything has energy even the highrises. So it isn't so much the highrises that are making you uneasy rather it is the type of energy being emanated from the people in the highrises. Generally a large city is full of stressful people who are sending out their stressful feelings into their surroundings. Nature, however, is inherently neutral. It does not stress out so therefore the energy coming from plants is inherently positive uplifting energy. Although it is more challenging to raise your energy level while in a city you can help ease your agitated state by turning your thoughts towards appreciating everything that surrounds you. This may not lift you as high as say being in a forest but it should help deflect some of the negative energy that the stressful people are putting out.
As for a mass consciousness shift I do believe that James is on the right track with his theory but Iím not really convinced that I will see it in my lifetime. Though I seem to come across more people opening up I also see a higher percentage still stuck in very rigid negative ways of thinking. Either way all we can really do is work on our own issues in an effort to reach our own personal peace. That I know is achievable.
Sincerely,
Michelle |
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chakratom
Joined: 16 May 2006 Posts: 107 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada, Earth
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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It is real if you use your powers of observation rather than using the mind.
It takes practice, and try eating vegan for a short period, say a week, and see if that is possible. I had a tough time ridding the meat from my diet, and found by eating healthier, and reducing meat and increasing other forms of protien, nuts, etc... it is easier to do.
Most important of James' writing is in the coincidence factor, where there are no coincidences, follow the heart, feel rather than believe, and remove doubt, it will hinder any attempt to do energy work successfully.
Namaste
Tom
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Theressa
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 793 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:58 am Post subject: Is everything the book said real? |
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Hi Weibin,
Any book is one person interpretation of what is happening from their point of view based on what they focused on.
But, what is evident is that our thoughts are very powerful and really affect our energy levels and success in life. There has been scientific research to show that an experimenters bias affects the experiment. Why? Well if you think you are going to fail you won't act in ways that would increase your chances of success. If I think there is no chance of achieving something then I'll act in ways to confirm this. I might not even have ago. Or if I am sensible I will write an action plan and realise with small steps most things are achievable.
This shows how important our thoughts are about ourselves and what we are capable of achieving and our thoughts about others and events.
Crisis = Judgement and choice. So you can see something as an opportunity to look at your options and where you want to end up and specify the specific actions to get you there. Our main job is that of problem solve regardless of our profession.
If you look out of a window and see the beauty you will smile. If you look out of the window and focus on the dog dirt or litter you will look sad. But, both were saw by looking out of the same window. Your focus is what mattered.
You can see the good even with high rises surrounding you. Are you in a toxic language environment where criticism is key or are you in a praising, complimenting environment. How can you improve your environment. Can you place flowers in your home? Concentrate on making your environment beautiful.
You own behaviour is the way you change the world. Worry is no use. Action is. Start now to improve your environment. Smile, compliment others genuinely for trying to do a good job. Be grateful. See what you have to be thank ful for.
Be constructive, and do not ever just complain use the time to do. Whether do is appreciating or whether the do is actively doing, its all do.
My goal is to say positive things, to praise and see specific things.
Blessings
Theressa
~learning every moment and becoming more aware is my goal. Making my impact as positive as I can~ |
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bill
Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="michellepetkus"]Hi Weibin,
Everything has energy even the highrises. So it isn't so much the highrises that are making you uneasy rather it is the type of energy being emanated from the people in the highrises. Generally a large city is full of stressful people who are sending out their stressful feelings into their surroundings. Nature, however, is inherently neutral. It does not stress out so therefore the energy coming from plants is inherently positive uplifting energy. Although it is more challenging to raise your energy level while in a city you can help ease your agitated state by turning your thoughts towards appreciating everything that surrounds you. This may not lift you as high as say being in a forest but it should help deflect some of the negative energy that the stressful people are putting out.
As for a mass consciousness shift I do believe that James is on the right track with his theory but Iím not really convinced that I will see it in my lifetime. Though I seem to come across more people opening up I also see a higher percentage still stuck in very rigid negative ways of thinking. Either way all we can really do is work on our own issues in an effort to reach our own personal peace. That I know is achievable.
Sincerely,
Michelle[/quote]
Nature is inherently neutral? Now this is a 'very rigid way of thinking'. As a matter of fact, it's not really thinking at all. It's a regurgitation of feel good politics that Michelle has swallowed. Watch the trembling cornered mouse. Watch the twitching of the gazelle's muscles as the cheetah slinks closer and closer. Seem like there's no stress there? Inherently neutral, are they? They're scared to death. They're 'stressed out' to the maximum. Nature's entire arsenal is based on stress, the release of the stress, and then stress, and the release of that stress, again and again.
Even a plant is under constant stress. Water, nutrients, sunlight, bugs, disease. Dont take my word for any of this. Look around. Think. Challenge me. Challenge yourself. Then reconsider this 'nature is inherently neutral' and produces only 'positive, uplifting energy' crap. I think you'll find it's just that: crap designed to make people think they are removed from the truth of the matter, and somehow are not the cornered mouse or the slinking cheetah. |
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Rudy
Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 7 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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Hello weibin,
Don't worry about not seeing the things from the movie, like energy. Most of the time you will learn to see it when meeting with someone who can see this energy. And when you don't meet that someone, just concentrate and send love to a plant or flower in your home.
You can also eat as much meat as you want, as long as it's a healthy amount. But don't expect anything to happen within the next 2 hours after a big meal.
Theirs energy in everthing! Meat has also energy, it's just the way it's prepaired that gives it more energy. If you send love(energy) to the meat when you are cooking it, it will taste better and give you more energy.
All the best cooks in the world do the same, without even knowing they do it. That's why their food taste and looks better, you can almost say it glows! They put all their energy and love into it.
Everyone experience their lives different, no one experience their lives exactly the way you do. It's the same with seeing or feeling energie. Some people can feel energie better than they see it.
In my case, I can feel and hear (yes I said hear) energie easier than I can see it.
Some people don't see it at all, but can experience it in another way.
Don't force it to happen, it will happen when you are ready for it, if nothing happens, it's ok! Most of my experiences just happend, without having to do a thing!
In some lives you just need to learn to life, do what you feel is right! _________________ - Holding the Vision |
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michellepetkus
Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 809 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:34 am Post subject: Is everything the book said real? |
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Dear Bill,
By neutral I mean unbiased nonjudgment. The state of nature is much like that of an infant. As with an infant nature lives solely by response. Its emotional state is not premeditated. Its emotional state is based on the circumstances at the moment. There is no past or future, only the present. That cowering mouse will no longer be afraid if it has escaped the danger successfully. This, however, does not hold true for adult humans. Adults will bring that fear with them and project it outwards towards other humans. Now of course if you stand in the middle of a pack of hungry lions they will probably make you their lunch. However, the lion will not attack if it is not hungry or not provoked. Humans, on the other hand, will attack for no good reason but to fill a void they feel from their negative thoughts. And most of the time, the well meaning people of the world donít even realize they are doing it. They donít realize that they are projecting their negative thoughts and that those thoughts can become contagious. That others will pick them up and make them their own, hence building an atmosphere of fearful negative energy. Nature, however, does not choose to project its energy because it does not think, it does not premeditate. It just is energy. So if you go to a SAFE part of the forest, you may be able to tap into the pure energy of the trees and plants. This may in turn lift your spirits as opposed to being in a big city full of stressed out people who may drain it from you.
That being said, the whole point of my post is not about finding energy from outside sources. The fact of the matter is, you are the one in charge of your energy. You can let negative thoughts fill your mind and drain your spirit or you can embrace life and choose to focus only on thoughts that lift your spirit. Because your thoughts truly are the core of your energy. As more people begin to understand this they will realize that they need to turn away from their negative thinking to be truly happy. Life then falls into place. That parking spot near the front door opens up just as you pull in. That dream job falls into your lap. That walk through the woods times perfectly as to avoid that hungry cheetah. Everything about your life flows in harmony with the rest of the world. So I challenge you Bill to embrace this neutral, unbiased nonjudgmental state. See how it affects your world and then tell me there isnít a plan or purpose to our existence. I guarantee once youíve seen it in action you will truly understand what the truth of the matter really is.
Sincerely,
Michelle |
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Theressa
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 793 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:57 am Post subject: Is everything in the book real? |
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Hi All,
I have recently realised that I interpret people, circumstances and things as I am and not as they really are. For example, I attached the most absurd interpretations to peoples actions. There was lady who works for an organisation I volunteer for on a board. One afternoon I met them at a festival I was working at in my paid work. I walked up to their stand and said "Hello how is it going?" One of the workers was stood facing the other way and watching a show taking place quite a bit away from where we were stood. She did not respond to my "hello how is it going?" My interpretation was she doesn't like me. After a while and quite a bit of reflecting I thought. One action and I think she intentionally ignored me.
How is this so? So I pondered and reflected further. There has also been times she has said hello and smiled and worked along side me and listened to my ideas. So I focus on the one action when she doesn't say hello. GO figure? Then on Friday I smiled at her and she smiled right back. Does this now mean she likes me? who knows. The point is she doesn't really know me on a personal level and I don't know her so how can she like me or dislike me. Maybe there are times she does not like my actions, sometimes she may think I don't like her because of my actions. Maybe she isn't even aware I am saying hello on other occassions when she is distracted elsewhere.
I realised it was all my interpretation that made the difference. It was my glasses metaphorically that were distorted and not her behaviour. I am not saying she is perfect and doesn't sometimes be irritable or ignore me. But to assume so much out of one action Urm!!
I feel energy when I do REIKI. I see how my plant reacts when I give Reiki to her. I see how people respond when I treat them valuable and worthy of notice or attention. I see this is love in action.
I see how lucky I am to have good rolemodels. I see how lucky others are to have me as a rolemodel.
The other day I did a tape for my fiance. I told him of my journey and the pain I used to feel and explained how I used this pain in my actions. It was so healing. He says he feels he knows me better now.
I took a risk but I am not afraid. For I know I am valuable. I know that GOD will always give me opportunities to use my talents, skills and to put love into the world that is guaranteed.
My fears are having less power over me these days. I have also cleared out alot of old stuff from my home that no longer represents my choices. It has been instrumental in helping me to choose who I want to be.
Much love and thank you to you all for helping me to change into someone I like being now.
Blessings, acceptance and love to who you all are.
Theressa |
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weibin
Joined: 29 Aug 2006 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you, everyone!
What you said can be concluded in one word: Know the beauty around your environment. But I am not living in a place where there is me alone. Everyday I am affected by the people around me. You said find the beauty of the building. How can I do that? When I says something is beautiful, some other people will deny it. They will argue with me. And I am the minority. The key is the people around me. I cannot leave the world. This is my life. |
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michellepetkus
Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 809 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:44 pm Post subject: Is everything in the book real? |
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Hi Weblin,
Ah, and yet I see beauty in everything. The beauty of the lines of the building and the technology that went into it's creation that keeps it standing tall for centuries. What an amazing feat. I even find beauty in rundown buildings as I imagine all the life that must have past through its doors. The stories it must have to tell. But it doesn't matter to me whether anyone else sees this beauty because I see it. It is mine and it brightens my day. So let go of needing to be in agreement with everyone. Everyone has their own opinions and they do not always match. Because the key to your happiness is dependent on you and you alone. Others will not provide that for you as they haven't figured out themselves how to be happy so how can they show you. You are the master here. Your happiness and mood are not dictacted by outside forces. You choose where you want to put your focus. Don't give sad unhappy people that power. Take ownership of your happiness for all its worth because nothing else matters.
Sincerely,
Michelle |
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weibin
Joined: 29 Aug 2006 Posts: 7
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Thank you! I understand.
I want to know your opinions about the dream explain part of the book. In the book someone can explain your dream and foresee what will happen to the dreamer in future. I just had a weird dream and need some explaination.
My dream is like this: I was in the wilds. There was a port near the lake. I saw wolves in the lake swimming and they dragged people into the lake and ate them. I was frightened. Later I met a savage. He is strong and is searching for the wolves to kill them. I saw wolves changed themselves into human. They came to the civilized world. Me and the savage came to there, too. And I saw a woman whose nose is very big. So I called the savage to kill her. I thought she was the wolf. The woman is strong. But she is no rival to the savage. Later, her boyfriend came... I woke up at that moment.
Could you explain that? I am really confused. What does my dream mean? |
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michellepetkus
Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 809 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:07 am Post subject: |
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Hi Weibin,
I will give you my interpretation of the dream, I have been told I am pretty good at it, but I always preface my thoughts by saying that ultimately you have to decide what feels right to you when considering any interpretation. That being said being in the wild means that you feel as though you are in danger. This probably means you currently feel vulnerable to manipulative people, people (wolves) who use control dramas to get their way. They have the ability to overwhelm you (being pulled underwater) and eat nice people like yourself alive (get you to do what they want). You have special difficulty dealing with nosy people (big nosed woman) who are probably always trying to get in your business and run your life. However, you are much stronger than you think. The savage is that part of you (your power) that knows how to defend, deflect, or otherwise keep you safe from being manipulated. He is a part of you that you may already be bringing to the surface. You may already be learning how to deal with the wolves but you are still a little concerned that there are aspects of their behavior that you havenít yet figured out or that no matter what you do they will always have back up (the boyfriend). Overall though the dream is very positive as it means you have either started down the road of breaking free of peopleís use of control dramas on you or if not you are ready to but just need to embrace your savage, your power. One way or another this is a breaking free dream and not so surprising quite in line with the subject matter of this thread. Hope that helps.
Sincerely,
Michelle |
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Theressa
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 793 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:03 pm Post subject: Is everything the book said real? |
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Hi Weibin,
About the dream:
Dreams are like mirrors. They reflect what is happening in our lives. I agree with Michelle. It sounds like you are questionning alot.
In the eleventh insight James Redfield talks about guarding our thoughts and sending love to others. We do this by having compassion and seeing that people who behave poorly are fearful souls. To criticise ourself or others is to add energy to the tendency we wish was different.
There is so much to appreciate in our lives. We have so much to be grateful for. Gratitude helps us to focus on the good in our lives. Deepak Chopra says "Attractive people do not compare themselves to others or to an ideal. They are not constantly looking for approval, which comes from fear. Attractive people are never passive to the gestures of love that come our way: a smile from a child, a twinkle in the eyes of someone you don't know, a gentle squeeze, a compliment. BE lavish in your expression of love. Respond creatively to every gesture of love."
Also Vicktor Frankl was in a concentration camp in world war 2 and he kept positive. He focused on the sky. He felt grateful that he had a piece of bread that he gave to someone worse off than him. He looked at what he had to be glad about even in such awful surroundings. He focused on the birds he could see and hear. He focused on being alive when he saw others led to the gas chambers.
A change in our own behaviour changes how others react to us. It also changes our perception. If we command respect by not always pleasing others then they begin to respect us and see we value our time and our life. Buy a plant for your desk.
Remember to not self criticise. Self Praise give your self credit for what good steps we've made.
You are hear on this site so it is a one behaviour you can praise.
It is one step at a time. When I am tired I find it hard.
Thoughts - feelings - behaviour (each influences the other, change one and the others change)
Blessings
Theressa |
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weibin
Joined: 29 Aug 2006 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Before I came here, I doubted this book. I thought this book is a Utopia. What the book said is perfect but will never come true. After I came here, I met so many nice people like you who believe this book and believe the energy, drama control and so on. I began to believe it, too. Thank you! Nice to meet you here!  |
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Theressa
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 793 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:03 pm Post subject: Is everything the book said real? |
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Hi Weibin,
Its great to meet you to. I think all we can ever do is our best. There is always going to be times when we are imperfect but by becoming more aware of our behaviours we can put some good into the world with our behaviours. Once we realise that we do have control over our behaviour and we it does influence others we realise we can control the world. We can always control how we see others.
Namaste -
We are ever changing with each new awareness we reach and behaviour we change.
Blessings
Theressa |
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