Give me that old time religion!

[Reverend Loush]

to all here considering the recent misunderstanding of the word religion let us deffine it and tell our own relgious truths! this topic is dedicated to the world vision of the tenth insight and its inclusion of all relgious truths! we will not fall to relgion bashing here, but instead join in hearts and minds to be one with truth and love and light!



the word relgion comes from the latin word religio meaning to link back! and it refers to a lifestyle, a set of rituals and creeds with which someone expresses their spirituality!



spirituality is our cosmolgy! how and where do we think we came from and got here! did some one put us here or create us? did we happen by spontanious combustion? is there an after life or a continuation of life after death? how is the unvierse and all its realms set up?



that is what relgion and sprituality are!



so, what are some of your relgious teachings and truths? one of the greatest teachings of my religion is the golden rule! "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"!



another one is "love your neighbor as yourself"!



so feel free to share your religious truths and teachings now, and tell us a little about your religion from your perspective if you will, in order that we might integrate those truths into our own lives!



again this is going to be a peaceful thread about the iclusuion of all religions! so i ask all of you who may post on this if someone comes on here to fight with people, don't dignify them with a respose, leave that to me, as i will gladly deffend your faith and my own! in this way you do not have to join in any negativity that may happen on here! please project love and light and posititvity on here!



blessed be most excellent! namaste'

Rev. Loush
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Rev. Loush O'Raven

Blessed be most excellent!

[wizanda]

We say unto all if someone say's (I am) do not go after them...Please remove this thread it is full of bad energy from the off!

None of us wish to fight!

Peace all! do not post!

We refuse your control drama's openly as a Spiritology community and not spiritual as Latin gave us!

Thank you, yet no thank you!

One Love!
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[Reverend Loush]

this is a thread of peace dedicated to the inclusion of all religious truths as in the tenth insight world vision! so if you want to post something about your relgious truth then please do so and if not than please keep off the thread as i don't want it filled with negative energy! this is a thread of peace and love and light! those who would post on it are full of hope for the inclusion of their relgious truths not their furthered exclusion, and they are not in the mood to be bullied anymore than they already may have been!

bb

L
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Blessed be most excellent!

[wizanda]

No not smile, as it sent an energy wave thru me!

So we see where you are, no problems we send you back love!

Yet really this is childish as we mentioned and will again, there are loads called legions as in RE- is to control or count which is against the living God as spoke of with King David!

Legion is group of people!

Yet to add an extra I is to imply religions is to bring people under control.



If we look at it logically then it wouldn’t be spirituality as that is dual in approach...as we noticed so we were thinking here is about Spiritology as we have just changed to as to define the word in ancient Hebrew and Egyptian and most languages and not to be selfish as Latin words translate in most cases. As we speak a few...and noticed, yet in spirituality there is no concept....yet!

So spirit is us....

ology is a philosophy or an understanding of a intrinsic meaning of something

We felt better is Spiritology and no longer religion as in each these connect as one and it is only those who do not follow god who say other wise, as God repeats the same words across the books.

Man doesn’t and in that is a great deal to find and like bread crumbs as is the Celestine insights to begin.

As let’s not get religions in the way of love as they always do, as they stop follow with arguing and ridiculous repeated conversations, which are being had in other places always.

P.s don't shoot me as we felt when you posted it and wondered who shot that energy at me, no problems as in Zen archery, you remove the target and no longer the bow...

So please we love and want peace!
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[Reverend Loush]

and Yashua (who's name was not ever nor is sandara)hamashia the white Christ, king of kings, lord of lords, creator said:



"i and the Father are one" "no one knows the father except through the Son, and no one knows the Son except through the Father" "I AM the Way, the Truth, and the Life!" "a time is comeing when true worshipers will worship the Father in Spirit and in Truth, and they are the kind or worshipers the Fther seeks"!



LOVE your God with all of your soul, all of your mind, and all of your heart!



blessed are the peace makers for they shall be called the true sons of God!



blesed are those who are persecuted in my name!



therefore do not worry about what you eat or drink! or about your body or what you will ware! the body is more important than the cloths!



which of you by worrying can add one hour to his life!



do not judge or you to will be judged!



ask and is shall be given unto you! seek and ye shall find! knock and the door will open!



watch out for false prophets because they come in sheeps clothing but inside they are ferocious wolves!



by their fruits you will recognize them!



it is written that man shall not live by bread alone, but by every utterance of the word that comes from the mouth of God!







and the apostles said:



for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that those who believe in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life! for God did not send him to condem the world, but to save the world through him!





therefore i urge youbrothers to offer your selves up as living sacrifices, holy and pleaseing to God, this is your spiritual act of worship



bless those those who persicute you!



live in harmony with one another!



if your enemy is hungry feed him, if he is thirsty give him something to drink, in doing so you will heap burning coals on his head!



do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good!



accept him whose faith is weak! one mans faith is strong and allows him to eat everything, another mans faith is weak and he eats only vegtables!the man who eats everything must not look down upon the one who does not, and the man who is not free to eat everything must not condem the one who is free to eat as he pleases! for Gd has accepted him! who are you to judege someone elses servant? for his own master he stand or falls, and he will stand for the lord is able to amke him do so! one man considers one day more sacred than another, and another man considers every day alike! each one should be fully convinced in his own mind! he who regaurds one day special does so to the lord! he who eats meats do so to the lord, for he gives thanks to God! for none of us lives to himself alone! if we live we live to the lord! if we die we die to the lord! so wether we live or die we belong to the lord!



let us stop passing judement on one another!



as one who is in lord Yashua i am fully convinced that no food is unclean in itself! but if anyone regards something as unclean than it is unclean for him!



let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification! do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food! all food is clean!



everything that does not come from faith is sin!





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these are some of the spiritual truths that my religion teaches and i look forward to reading all of yours!

bb

L
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Rev. Loush O'Raven

Blessed be most excellent!

[wizanda]

[Reverend Loush]

the light of love is eternal! this God power can be described in the idea of the hebrew word "shefa" meaning abundance, raidiance, or emanation!



that is another religious truth that i hold dear! and as for me dareing to do anything! yes i do! this thread is dedicated to the tenth insight inclusion of all relgious truths so if you don't like it........well no one said you had to post!

bb

L
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Rev. Loush O'Raven

Blessed be most excellent!

[wizanda]

Not the point we are getting at.....

Religion has hurt you, and now you have come on here attacking others with the same thing that hurt you, so let not that be your motive....

Yet the motive of being like Christ, if that is indeed what you say and believe...

That is not to hurt and be so careful in your wording as to lighten and never attack.

So as that it may be is as lightening across the web and people will speak about it, that we resolve ideas and beliefs in unconditional love of all having a say as we are working towards night and day between us in our many diffrent ways and styles.

One love
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[Reverend Loush]

religion has never hurt me but people like you have! however each to their own! which is another religious truth of mine! religion is at the very heart of who and what i am! first and foremost more than anything else that i am, i am a christian, that is my religion! religion has blessed my life so very much! both mine and other peoples faiths! they have all been an inspiration to my life and i wouldn't want to live in a world where they didn't exist! i would rather be dead and have my relgion on the other side than be here with out any form of religion! religion has blessed me so much that it is the center of my life! my religion is my relationship with God, and i wouldn't want to live with out it ever!



another relgious truth of mine is that most of the time tolerance is rightous!



God helps those who help themselves! that is another relgious truth!



still another is "to ask permission is to seek denile" unless of course that permission be from God! i seek no man's permission unless it affects them directly! i don't want or need the approval of others! life is too short! religion has blessed me more than any words could ever say, and i am so greatful to God for the grace of mine!

bb

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Rev. Loush O'Raven

Blessed be most excellent!

[wizanda]

Control drama's?
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[Reverend Loush]

i know you should really get over that!

bb

L
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Rev. Loush O'Raven

Blessed be most excellent!

[rishi]

"Judge not, lest ye be judged"



Question; What's wrong with being judged? I stand ready to be judged at any time...in fact, I openly invite it.



Judgement, or should I say the exercise thereof, is essential to intelligent living. It is particularly important to spiritual practice. Judgement is about discerning the real properties of something, to See it accurately and determine it's character, as in, "good judgement".



With regard to religion, those who have good judgement will steer clear of it. Religion of all types has become a bane to the human condition. It exists not to enlighten, (for the most part) it exists to make those who don't want to change, feel better about their apathy.



Religion has become a focal point for empty ritual, misconception, perceptual blindness, (through dogma) illogic, anti-scientific inquiry, anit-free thought, and anti-liberty. It is in essence, anti-spiritual. Any student of history can give ample testimony that religion has been a primary cause for more wars, social strife and misery, than any other force human-kind has ever known.



Religion is about blind belief. By not believing blindly, we gain clarity and wisdom. With clarity into truth, what is the need of a system of belief which actively opposes logical analysis and experimentation?
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[matt]

When two conflicting forces desire peace, why is there conflict? Simply, because they are lost in the details and ignore the solution.



When we become lost in details, we become divided and weakened. When we apply the solution, we become unified and enhanced.



Details exist in ever finer precision, to be disseminated ad infinitum and they cloud our hearts. The solution is singular and brings clarity to all.



If we find ourselves phasing out in to details, then we have learnt something about ourselves. It is enough to thank the cause of our distraction, for indeed when transformed correctly it becomes the root of our strength.



In our "foes" are the roots to our completion. We need not fight them if we are clever; just to witness our reaction is all the understanding we require.



Peace



love,

matt

[Reverend Loush]

i whole heartedly disagree that religion is the bane of human exiatance! i would never want to see a humanity that had no religion! i think the bane of human existance is people being judgemental and condeming, as well as condicinding to eachother! religion again is humaniy's relationship to God! religion comes from the word religio meaning to link back, as i have said numerous times before! and i don't know what people like wizanda or anyone else on here thinks that you are going to accomplish by coming onto my peacful thread dedicated to the tenth insight world vision and trying to bully me! do you honestly believe that i am so childesh that i would really be intimidated by yall! we who are relgious people are far to brave for that! the problem since you asked rishi about judgement is simply that no human being is qulatified to truly judge another! only a perfect being can hand out perfect judgements! no one here fits that description! only God is perfect! since you asked!

on regards to religion people who have good descerment will hold it dear to their hearts! judgements that are fundamental to life are not against people! we judge what concepts or actions of others that we might hold true or untrue! but we shouldn't pass judgement on those people! i am glad now to be having this discussion! i hadn't realized how far things had gone with people trying to hurt others by condeming their religions! i see now how many hurt people that are out there, that were hurt by not religion but by people trying to control others in the name of religion! so once again, i do not know what has or has not happend to either of you in your lives, but i can see that someone or several people have tried to use relgion to hurt yall! but it wasn't religion that hurt yall it was people! trying to blame religion is removing responcibility from those people! and from what we know of the control dramas, you can't blame someone or something that isn't their fault and expect to find true healing! my religion and the religion of all of those that i know, be they buddhists, hindu's, muslem, wiccans, druids, pagans, jews, or any of the rest of them that i have known, have blessed our lives beyond what we even knew was possible in human existance! '



the sufi's have some good relgious truths that i find very compeling! for those who read this and may not know, the sufis are the mystics of islam!



there is a story, and i read a version of it by rumi a famous sufi poet!



"a person came to the door of the beloved one day, and knocked! a voice from within answered saying who is it? the person said it is i! the voice said there is no room in here for thee and me! saddened but not giving up the person left! after a year of fasting, praying, and meditating the person returned and knocked again! the voice again answered saying who is it? the person answered it is thee, and the door to paradise was opend to them"!



i always loved that one! the sufis also say in describing God's light, that it is light upon light! this has always stuck with me! they have a teaching which i have explored at great length and i want to leave it with all of you! there is a concept they have about learning and living! the saying is "polishing the mirror of the soul"! ultamitly i think that is what we are all doing here! why we were all drawn to the insights! spiritual evolution! we are here to polish the mirrors of our soul! so on behalf of the sufis, the christians, and all the other rich and wonderful religions of the world, i say ................give me that old time religion!

this is true spirituality! this is the very nature of spiritual evolution, and enlightenment! we are all in our own ways polishing the mirrors of our soul!



there is a wiccan rede that i have also always found compelling and in line with many of the teachings in the biblical book of romans! "ain it harm none do as ye will"!



I ask everyone now, is bashing other peoples faiths and lives brining harm to them! i summit to you that it is hurtful, so therefore it does bring harm! we should all be trying to learn from one another and celebrate eachothers diversity! it is easy to celebrate what is the same in all of us! the real spiritual challenge is to celebrate what is different!

bb

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Blessed be most excellent!

[Reverend Loush]

oh and ps on the whole empty ritual thing! my rituals are always full of God's graceful presence and love! they are never empty and i never walk away from my ritual time without having gained something great from the experiance, even if that greatness is small in measure, it is huge in richness! i am sure wiccans, jews, and buddhists would all agree with me on that! life itself is a ritual, and it is anything but empty unless that is all that you choose to see! relgion is not about blind beliefe but quit the oppisite! it is about experintial beliefe! i believed because i chose to, then i believed because i experianced first hand! and then i knew! life is full of dogma, religious and other wise! some is good and some is bad! i love the dogmas of many religions! they have taught me so very much about life and about people! i welcome scientific seeking into religion as do many now in my faith! there are a lot of very up and coming prominent christian scientists! and as it said in the celestine prophecy! science was not meant to replace religion but rather to help clarify some of the ins and outs of what religion told us about where we come from! humanity needs religion like a fish needs water! religion is all about helping us find a connection to God, which we need, especially in the light of control dramas! and no religion is not the cause of almost all wars! a good history student would have the higher perspective that, religion was not the cause of those wars but rather the excuse! the cause was people not being able to change their perception of reality! all wars are power plays pure and simple! someone wanting to control someone or something else! that is it! people not religion is the cause of all wars! isn't time we find healing and peace? to me the best way to do that is to look to religion! since religion has been the poor excuse for almost all wars, than we should in my opinion look to religion to find a way to live in harmony together! we must go back to the wepon that supposedly caused the wound in order the find the medicine and truly begin to heal on a fundamental level!

bb

L

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Blessed be most excellent!