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James Redfield
Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 13
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 5:59 pm Post subject: Intimations of a Prior Relationship |
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When you meet a person for the first time, do you ever sense that you know them from somewhere, only to conclude that you can?t recall where you?ve met? This is an experience that most of us have had at one time or another, and it?s explored in the Celestine Prophecy Movie. Our main character, John, as he travels to Peru, meeting new people along the way, has several initial contacts that provoke this intriguing perception.
Although he is meeting these characters in varying situations, each has a habit, a gesture, a facial expression that seems familiar in some way. Sometimes these meetings are emphasized by flashbacks to another time. But as the film develops, they are less and less obvious, adding to the depth and discovery of subsequent viewings, and pointing to how they really occur in our individual lives.
The intrigue of how new people cross our paths is, of course, a major theme of both the books and the film, and I would invite you, once you?ve seen the movie, to let this experience serve as a reminder to be on the look out for such occurrences. Certain people are familiar, and one of the most fun parts of life is to see how we react to what these individuals do or say in our presence. Do we feel like this person could be an instant friend, giving us a clue to an approaching turn in our destiny? Or does the message they present to us suggest we must take a step of growth in some manner ? a step we have been postponing until they showed up again to remind us of the need?
Either way, it?s a new occurrence in our own movie. So stay alert.
-James |
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michellepetkus
Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 809 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 2:26 pm Post subject: Intimations of a Prior Relationship |
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I have had this experience on a number of occasions though it occurs with less frequency then it did in the past. In all instances though it has always felt like a very spiritual connection and one of importance. For whatever reason I never took them lightly. But interestingly enough I had one particular encounter where the shoe was on the other foot. Meaning, I met someone who had that feeling of familiarity about me but I did not sense it on my end.
I won't go into all the details but a few will be needed to explain it fully. I have, for whatever reason I have not quite figured out yet, had a few benign female medical problems. After I moved I had to change doctors. I chose a name out of the phone book based on being drawn to the person. That is pretty much how I make most of my decisions, pick the name that gives me the most sense of peace. When I went to meet her for the first time the first thing she asked me was if we knew each other. I told her I didn't think so but I did actually find comfort in her saying it because I had had that feeling before of other people and truly felt that it probably meant I was on the right path, I chose the right doctor.
As time went by I started to question that decision. Though I had already had a history of medical problems, the first couple of years I went to see her everything was normal. Then one year I started to get sick. I made mention to her of my problems but she essentially just brushed me off. So I looked for help elsewhere with a regular GP. It took a lot of time and patience on my end but I was eventually able to get a diagnosis and as it turned out it was indeed a female medical problem. When my female doctor got the news she was actually mad at me for using other avenues to find out what was wrong. I was flabbergasted at her anger and pretty much just told her I came to her eight months ago and she didn't think there was anything wrong. To keep a long story short, basically it turned out that this doctor had a rather big ego problem. She thought she knew what was best and everyone should just listen to her. Through her experience with me I pushed her to open up and be a partner with me. I wasn?t going to be bullied or treated with disrespect. I asked questions and pointed out to her that I didn?t mistrust her I just needed to be informed for my emotional well being. Once she was able to see that I wasn?t trying to second guess her, that this situation wasn?t about her, it was about helping me, she was able to open up to me without being defensive. So when all is said and done I think that maybe I helped her become a better doctor and she helped me learn how to deal with people who have big egos.
So that is my story and an example of why I think those types of encounters are important and should be acknowledged.
Sincerely,
Michelle |
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Crystalcougar
Joined: 06 Apr 2006 Posts: 3 Location: Kansas
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:43 am Post subject: |
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One of my best friends and I crossed paths about five years ago, purely by accident, but became friends. Like we have always known each other. Last year we went to the mountains. Found a small creek under a bridge and went down by the water. We had been there probably 45 minutes, and I saw a vision of her from another time laying by the water, mortally wounded with what looked like a big scrape on the side of her neck and face. At that point, I just kept quiet and wanted to leave. On the way back up the road I could hear the sound of a bear in the woods, but just kept walking. The next day I was asked if I wanted to return to the water. I just said no, and she said she was glad I did. She said when she was by the water, she could see a time probably a couple hundred years ago, where we were by the water, I was struggling with a bear, and she tried to distract the bear and was swiped and killed. She said on leaving the day prior, she had heard a bear in the woods. We were both seeing opposite sides, but the same memory again.
Many that have crossed my path, that have been just as intended. It has been amazing, but from each I have learned and resolved issues that if I had not stayed conscious of the encounters, what was intended to be joined and resolved or understood, may not have happened. |
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Theressa
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 793 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:40 pm Post subject: Imitations of prior relationships |
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Hi James, Hi All,
I realise that the authority figures in my life have all been with holding of emotional support, (or those I thought were authority figures just because they were controlling). They each remind me of my mum. However, a few have nurtured me and taught me the tools I did not get in childhood. I can now relate to authority figures from adult mode and negoiate instead of feeling I am in a battle. Now I know I can control my response I am beginning to have an easier time with others.
My relationship with those I perceived as being worse off than me I behaved with as I would with my father. My father has had a mental illness since I was eleven. I have always since then been trying to fix others lives and worlds - their territory, instead of sorting out my territory.
Recently, I have been growing alot and dropping the control dramas. I could see how I acted like a poor me around the authority figures. I am unsure which control drama I used with the people who reminded me of my father?
Kind regards
Theressa |
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lite
Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 8
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:35 pm Post subject: unplanned meetings |
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James,
I have enjoyed your books for alittle while now. After concidering the insights and stories I did notice nearly everyone in my life had aspects that appeared to me to be familiar patterns, or be involved in them.
Reading and contemplating many books like yours, I often wondered how or why manifestations of all types could be used maliciously. The problem with innocent contemplation, as with all energy forms, is that they are prayers. I didn't think about idle thoughts as prayers, I never gave much thought to things that passed through my mind in a day. I never measured or counted the number of times some things occurred to me. I never could tell what the weight of a question was. I could not feel the difference in spiritual gravity between slight positive or negative thoughts. The strong thoughts 'felt' obvious. The only measure I had was whether or not I decided to take action, and a strong feeling that was negative could always be calmed or dissolved. I did not fully comprehend even what the measure of strength was. "Feeling" is a very vague and simple term.
If I saw something horrible on the nightly news, giving alittle conversation or attention to the "mass murderer" or the "warring nations", entertaining questions and guessing at answers to "why" was just a common household pastime. These times never dawned to me to be prayers. Stepping so briefly into a mass of energy, just to talk about it for a minute, did not seem important. It was just "the way" to communicate.
All questions always are answered, and all types of questions are infinit if we all keep wondering and asking. I understand that sending energy (love), attention, to any idea or item, is a prayer, feeds it and helps create it or continue it. I did not understand that even idle, fleeting questions, sometimes called worries, are prayers, and often as charged if not more so, as the brief times we focus with intent for the highest good.
What I walked into, from these contemplations, were answers to my daily "idle" questions. I learned that the predations of some folks are designed and used after they also study all of the greatest spiritual books, to find out how to mimic and pretend. I was too unaware of the imbalance 'lonliness' creates, as well as other hidden weaknesses, and too easily duped by circumstances that portrayed miracles.
I always use to think it was better to focus on only on Go(o)d. I did not understand what love (attention), or prayer really was. I did not understand how attention by preditors to perfecting and manipulating control dramas, could have become a studied science and common activity to many folks. James, many "bad guys" in your books are not so studied in the energies of life as much as just people making mistakes. The heroes of your books are described to be much more aware. There is an equal and opposit awareness, at the same levels, in the circles of energy entertaining the "bad guys". Do you think you could address this energy, and make it crystal clear in your messages, in future movies and books? People who work to depolarize charged relationships of all types, as well as those working in circles with more people involved, need to be aware that the coincidences, warmth, and unnexpected meetings, happening in person, online, and by phone, are not always as coincidential as it looks. The great charges of energy fluxes are often easily stimulated and harvested similar to the way we plant our farms. There is a great and immediate need for the hero in each person, to have and use the tools that have always been there, to discern. The charges of energy used to manipulate people, are also used to manipulate countries. Love and energy are not unique exchanges to heros.
Heros and prayerful conscious lovers of light, are those that recognize when and where to use healing and balancing techniques for great purposes. We charge and pray together, and direct, with intent, the love that we focus. There is a great requirement to clarify the difference between these well meaning activities and the ones being used in similar ways that are disguised. We can start by detection in our everyday life of the control dramas that you have described, but I am referring to the dramas used and maintained that are conducted by those that are highly aware of all of the ways to evade common detection. I am talking about the smaller and larger organized groups that know all about control dramas and how to distract and fuzz the focus and intent of peace. Stimulating and harvesting the communal charge of a city or country is not so complicated, and creating dramas and distractions in order to allign and control the focus of many people is the way things have always been. "The con of Man", that love is "over there", is only manifested "if ___ is accomplished", is the greatest con of all.
We all do so much chasing, dramatizing, travelling, building, and the opposits of these and we never stop and use the basic most powerful tools we have to discern the intent of the activity we partake. Will you illustrate and clarify the definition of focus? Can you show, in movie form, where the power of God is? Can you repeat the message in 15 ways, so that it will never be unclear again, that to ask a question once or twice, in a direct and clear energy, enables detection of fear (the root of all disharmony)? Spiritual weakness and doubt can be masked by many means, except when the God in us, looks to the God in our brother, and the faked strength is unable to exist at that moment. No weapons need discharged, no drama needs polarized, and no love needs to be lost. A simple allignement with truth is all that is needed, and it is supported with the highest of all powers. Will movie goers and light workers see how this heals the planet? The simple decisions each make in everyday life, the attention to where our money goes and who we love, and the swiftest discernment tools, available in each person who decides to remember?
Can you help us remember? |
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Strider
Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 3 Location: Naples, Florida
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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When I read the first book I was amazed because my whole life I was trying to figure out what life is all about. Most of my thoughts were drawn inward toward my inner being and I was and am quite the daydreamer thinking inward instead of zoning out. I had all these puzzle pieces but they didn't line up and I had questions and didn't really understand exactly the connectivity of my thoughts. The pieces of my puzzle were connected in little groups but not connected to the other groups. I had the ideas but I couldn't connect them to each other. Reading the book did that. My thoughts were complex and hard to understand but seeing and reading my thoughts on paper help create the pieces inbetween my thoughts and helped connect them all together. Sure... there are many puzzle pieces that need to be placed into the correct positions but reading that book confirmed my thoughts and helped make me think that I am not the only one thinking this way. It was quite the amazing experience.
On relationships... I have never been one to be in a lot of relationships and as a matter of fact being in my mid thirties I had only a few by choice. Not that I couldn't but I felt like I was waiting for someone or something. That happened in August of last year. I found my soulmate. In a matter of a few weeks we had gone through so much together that there was nothing that could separate us. I feel like we needed to go through disturbing times in our lives to prepare each other for the right moment for us to meet to make it work. We feel completely comfortable together and for the first time in both of our lives we actually feel completely loved by someone in the true sense of love... unconditional love.
As the story goes... and we both think it would be quite the movie... she has been told her whole life that she couldn't have children. Her body wouldn't allow her to get pregnant. After fifteen years of marriage with two people she never had recieved the gift of a child. She moved in and within a week of us meeting each other she was pregnant. We call her our miracle child... our little butterfly. She has never really thought about past lives and that sort of thing but when I mention ideas from the movie to her she gets excited and says that is exactly how it is. I know I've known you before there is no explaination for what we have been going through. It is amazing and I believe I will start a new thread to explain in detail all the amazing details. This scenario is the best situation my life has had and to fully appreciate it I believe that other should know about it. |
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michellepetkus
Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 809 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome to the group Strider. What a beautiful story and I have to say a lot of your life story felt like I was reading my own bio. I look forward to reading your future posts.
Sincerely,
Michelle |
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Strider
Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 3 Location: Naples, Florida
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:45 am Post subject: |
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| Thank you Michelle, I would love to meet people with the same vision as we have and make new friends. I hope there is a lot of activity here or leads me to a place that can connect me to more people that share our vision. |
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michellepetkus
Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 809 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Strider,
You might want to try and go to the main page and try the live chat area. You may get more traffic than here but me and a few others are always around to talk. As for physically meeting people you might want to check health and wellness and/or spirituality type places in your area. They might have groups that get together.
Michelle |
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Gleznov
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 7
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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Every bit as interesting to me is when you move to a new place and meet new people, and within a month or two you feel like you've been friends with those people forever...
Like bumping into a whole group of souls you know well for the first time in this life. I've moved around quite a bit the last few years, and I always find that I make friends that I feel like I've had forever. I'm also not the least bit sad about leaving good friends behind, as I know that we'll meet again, whether in this life or another. _________________ JP
http://metaphysicalmumbojumbo.blogspot.com
http://www.jonpeeoh.com |
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Anna63
Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 3 Location: Alabama
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject: Hi |
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Hello.I too have had these experiences.Only a few people that have come into my life strike me as this type though.But the ones that do are big ones.Meaning these people always teach me something big.Like the big light bulb turning on over my head,and sometimes theirs too.They often mention feeling that they know me somehow too,or that there was a special reasons for our meeting.Sometimes the lesson I learn is about to love,but sometimes its about defending myself.Either way,I have learned valuable lessons from these experiences. _________________ **Anna** |
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truth
Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 441 Location: Nottingham, England
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Hiya,
Thought I'd share an incredibly recent one with you - today's in fact.
A few weeks ago I awoke with the notion to find some work, a contract of some sort, to tie me over whilst I await the next big adventure. I spent about five minutes on the Internet and came across an old contact name, phoned her etc etc. A few days later the agent contacts an ex-employer of mine with whom I'd worked six years ago for three months. To the agent's surprise, my ex-employer had mentioned my name just a few days earlier (around about the time I'd decided to look for work!), in the context of "That's who you need".
Fast forward to today. I'd seen this chap around the office a few times and I thought he'd worked there when I was last there - six years ago. Anyway, I sat near him at lunch and asked him the question. I was gobsmacked to find out that he wasn't who I thought he was. Anyway, we chatted, the chat ending with him asking me to join his team for dinner on Friday. Basically, I could have found a myriad of excuses as to why I didn't want to go, but something stopped me from declining the invitation. When I mentioned it to my husband, who is incredibly insightful, his reaction was, "Go".
The thing that is holding me back from going is the fact that they'll all know each other and I'll be the newbie (an old-ish one at that). However, everything else: me working where I am, him reminding me of the other chap, gut-feeling, my husband's reaction and being drawn to this forum (one that I haven't visited before), tells me that I have to go...
And now that I've written this, I'm really looking forward to it.
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michellepetkus
Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 809 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:18 am Post subject: |
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Hi Truth,
Good luck and let us know how it went
Michelle |
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truth
Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 441 Location: Nottingham, England
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:57 am Post subject: Intimations of a Prior Relationship |
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Hiya,
An update on the Friday night meet.
Well, basically, it didn't happen! However, it all worked out in the end...
The plan was to meet up at four and all head off to the restaurant together. We have an inter-office move this weekend and so everyone was packing everything away in readiness. I'd finished mine and so went to offer help elsewhere. By the time I came back - they'd all gone. At this point my feelings were mixed - should I go and try to catch up or should I just let it be? In the end there was no contest: I didn't have the energy to pursue them and so I didn't.
Yet again, I've learnt some very important lessons from this tiny experience:
Firstly, always accept invitations that are offered with true intentions. I'd assumed, when the invitation was first offered, that I wouldn't enjoy myself, because it would be a booze fest; at the time the invite was offered, I could not know that was the case and therefore it was only right that I accept it without pre-conceived ideas. Just because they were out of the starting blocks and down the pub before the starting pistol sounded, still doesn't mean that that was the case (even though I have a sneaky feeling that the call of the barmaid's apron overrode the previously good intentions of the invite).
Secondly, don't act when the energy isn't there to back up the actions. I was in two minds whether or not to go, but my energy was flagging; the mile hike to the restaurant might have re-energised, but at that point in time I didn't have the energy to find out. I have to admit I felt good and stronger, immediately I decided to go home. I also know that any issues that remain unaddressed today, will raise their heads another day - hopefully when we have the energy with which to deal with them effectively.
Thirdly, I feel in my heart when others feel bad: guilt, ashamed, angry and frustrated or just plain sad. In the past, due to me feeling guilty, because I thought that I was the cause of their pain, I changed my actions to help alleviate it (because it also removed mine). However, I now know that what I feel is a reflection of their own bad feelings and that it is their responsibility to recognise them in order to do something about it for themselves. That said, I also now know that I have much to learn in helping empower them to question their own feelings.
Perhaps I'll get that opportunity on Monday! As fate would have it, after the office move, the chap who invited me out will be my new neighbour. What I really, really want is to be able to help him recognise and deal effectively with any guilt he might have had about omitting me, having shown real kindness in including me.
Now that want is in my heart, I know it will happen.
I have to say thank you again for this forum. The act of sharing my thoughts and feelings is truly invaluable. It helps me tremendously by centring my thoughts and feelings, empowering me to remain open to life's messages.
Many lessons learnt and many still to learn - I love this life! |
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Jennypoo
Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 218 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:32 am Post subject: Jennypoo's Reply |
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Hi James and all good spirits!!!
I have always known through energy that we are all linked spiritual and mentally as one united holy family!!!
I was asked by strangers for years (Hey, where do I know you from?)
Then people started to blurt out (Hey, I know you---Don't I?)
Now people are just smiling--- till their teeth hurt ---when I look back and smile at them--- as if we have known each other forever--- and they will follow me smiling ---not sure whether or not--- they should speak but when and if we do communicate ---we always find we have someone or something in common!!!
I once in college was so busy ---now I wish I had taken the time--- to speak to a young man who walked up to me waiting for the public phone and the energy between us--- the feeling that we knew--- we had known and that we were suppose to know--- and did know each other ---was so strong--- (It was Pure Energy)!!!
--- I will never forget it and the thought--- I had as I passed him by--- so stressed out & busy that day---I just thought to myself as I looked directly into his eyes---I do not have time to fall in LOVE with you young man and I went on my way!!!
I now wish--- I had known--- the energy of LOVE--- I was experiencing was a pure and true connection--- that I could have taken the time to nuture as a friend ---and spiritual brother ---but I missed out on that time and now wait too see if anyone else ever--- does that with me ---so I can chase the person down the street if nescessary to explore our connectedness!!!
Love & peace unto you all from Jennypoo  _________________ Jennypoo loves you too!!! |
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