Living food

[aeon]

In the Celestine books I have read so far I didn't quite understand exactly what "living food" is. Is it different to purely Vegan? does it include dairy food? I found a book on body PH in diet which helped a bit and another one on "superfoods"....but when I ran round excitedly to my local health stores they did not have any of the products that would enable to me to follow the regime of a more alkali diet.

If anyone can help please reply... I have read the first book, the Tenth Insight and Shamballa books...if the answer is in one of the others forgive me and refer me to it.

P.S. Having posed my question here I have spent most of the week getting answers! It has been exciting to be led step by step through the things I needed to know and put into practice.... its all falling wonderfully into place!
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[Grahame]

Hi aeon,

To me living food is akin to natural food. It still contains all of it's life force, all of it's soul you might say...

I have explored the pH diet myself, actually I have read a lot about nutrition in general and I have meditated on what food is. Here are a few things I would like to share with you.

The pH diet, as with many other so call health food diets, really boils down to the fact that processed food loses much of its benefits, much of what is good for our bodies is basically destroyed in the processing. Fresh, raw, unprocessed food is the best food for our bodies - I don't think you would find any one out there, advocating any kind of diet would argue with that.

When we eat, we are in essence assimilating a foreign body into our own body. The old adage goes that we eat ourselves sick and digest ourselves well again. When you think about it, preservatives are designed to retard the actions of organisms that breakdown food matter, many of these same or similar organisms are the ones that our bodies use to breakdown and assimilate the food for our own energetic uses. It makes sense then that our bodies have greater difficulty digesting these foods - there is more 'ash'. The potentiality is there for the food to make us 'sick' for longer.

The best food of all is the food you grow in your own garden, it is embodied with your energies, you talk to it, you feed it, you care for it. To me then it stands to reason that you will have a greater synergy with that food and thus you will be able to digest it more fully. As your food source moves further away from this, the energies it contains become increasingly less suited to your body.

If you can't grow it, buy it fresh, locally.

I have a million and one thoughts on food and growing food and I would love to discuss it with you in depth. If you have specific thoughts on foods I would love to here them and share my thoughts.

Peace and fresh food

Grahame
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[aeon]

Thanks for your reply Grahame...I have significantly changed my eating habits already but there are a few things I would like to discuss. I will give it some thought and write them down as cogently as I can and then get in touch. Do you think it is appropriate to discuss on here or would it be better through private message?
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[Grahame]

I think it is appropriate and important to discuss it here. I think the greater proportion of people have lost contact with their bodies and what food means.

I reckon even if you are looking to ascend and leave your body, you first need to fully inhabit your body.

Cheers

Grahame
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[aeon]

OK. On doing some research I figured that reducing the acidity of the water I drink was something very necessary for me and also obtaining some spirulina. I had read that most bottled water is acidic and you cannot buy the right kind of water because it is not available.
The PH drops (or the means to process the water energetically) which would help the water were very expensive as were most of the healthy food products that I wished to buy....and outside the comfort zone and even capability of a person on state benefit.
Generally speaking it seems I can comfortably poison myself with ready meals and non certified unorganic food on the dole but getting myself healthy and able to work throughby means of a healthy diet is prohibitively expensive.

I was astonished how much the realisation of this problem increased the FEAR and anger in me.

I could swop sugar with its effects on teeth and gums and diabetes threat for stevia...which doesnt add calories (good news for someone overweight like me) and reduces sweet cravings but it turns out to be illegal to be sold in this country (UK) and I am unsure about buying on the internet. How do you know you are getting the pure, unadulterated right thing?

I want to grow my own seed and bean sprouts but can't find muslin around here ...is there a good alternative to put in my jam jars? (I have no soil garden just a back yard.)

A few questions for starters....
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[Grahame]

wow aeon, you've crammed a lot in there.

I'm not entirely sure what is the major difficulty for you, but I will have a go at addressing some of you concerns, however, I obviously don't know your living arrangements, your general diet and your spiritual frame of reference so I guess this will start out as fairly broad termed and '3D' in nature...

Firstly water...

I reckon if you are drinking water and enough water then worrying about the acidity can be left until you get the rest of your diet on track. If however, your diet is all sound in terms of quantities and general quality and you are looking to take yourself to the next level then it might be worth considering capturing your own rain water (which I assume falls pretty frequently where you are) or getting a hold of one of the 'living water' systems that are purported to return water to more of a natural state. But if your diet is not A1 in terms of the freshness and balance then that would seem to be more important than even begining to think about water pH and organics. Ready meals may seem to be less expensive, but often that is just a miss-understanding of how to prepare good food in my opinion.

I'm not quite sure what you were saying gave rise to fear and anger in you.

Sugar substitutes...

In my opinion any of the sugar substitutes are probably worse than sugar, and whilst they don't contain sugar that can be converted to fats, they do contain chemicals which the liver has trouble digesting. When the liver is over loaded with such chemicals it tends to siphon them off to deal with later, and the most effective way for the body to deal with that is to store them in fatty tissues until such a time as the body can think about processing them again. So these chemicals can actually cause greater long-term fat deposits than good old natural sugar. Often this is what causes problems for people who are 'dieting' and starting a new exercise regime. When we start to burn this old fat, the chemicals and toxins are re-released into the system and the system can get over-loaded and we fall ill with their effects. This is commonly seen when people start to 'de-tox'. There is really no such thing as a 'pure, unadulterated' chemical as far as the human body is concerned in my opinion. If you have to have sweet have sugar, steer clear of fat in preference to sugar and drink plenty of water.

Muslin should be cheap as chips at any fabric shop. Failing that those thin baby wraps are made of the same stuff. Basically anything that will drain well does the same job. Or you could try doing sprouts on cotton wool.

That's the 3D answer.

The spiritual answer is that...
It is not the actual food that you put in to your body that causes a reaction in your body - the thoughts you have about that food, and about yourself when you are putting that food in has a far more profound effect on you.

Let me ask you a 'simple' question... Do you believe you are a 'creator' of you own universe or merely a pawn within it?

Grahame
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[aeon]

I reckon if you are drinking water and enough water then worrying about the acidity can be left until you get the rest of your diet on track.

I felt it was the other way round... I felt that eventually I would be able to balance my diet very nicely and have gone a good way towards that already. I have been basing my choices and changes on Gillian McKeith's general advice and also specifically on the superfoods likely to deal with the all the health niggles brought about as a consequence of eating the wrong foods in the wrong combinations for a long long time.

I have had a life-long dangerous aversion to liquids in quantity (probably because I was forced to drink after a serious kidney illness at age 7), especially water because it usually tasted foul, though of course not to toxic coffee and ordinary tea. This has led to almost permanent state of dehydration...I am taking steps to rectify that I have stopped drinking coffee altogether and drink herbal and green teas when I want a hot drink. I drink bottled water as my home supply comes through lead pipes and despite testing and advice from the Water Board is polluted with the most dreadful metallic taste which overcomes even the taste of food cooked in it.




I'm not quite sure what you were saying gave rise to fear and anger in you.

It was the discovery that a lot of the supplements and things necessary to good health are more expensive than their non healthy equivalents..I think the anger and fear came from the discussion on Codex Alimentarius by certain people who feel that the the powers that be have no desire for our health and welfare and in fact are actively working against it by using new laws to make healthy living more difficult. I apologise for voicing part of the Fear here...it has mitigated a little as I have been able to start making improvements with items that are'nt so expensive...

Sugar substitutes

Stevia is a South American herb...and not a sugar substitute in the normal sense of the term. It is another superfood... able to be used as a natural sweetener (being 300 times sweeter than sugar)and having the side effect of reducing sweet cravings generally. Whilst Peruvians and Japanese have used it extensively for many years our government has made it illegal to sell it in this country because of one study done 40 years ago. Apparently Diabetics can use it without upsetting their blood sugar...

The spiritual answer is that...
It is not the actual food that you put in to your body that causes a reaction in your body - the thoughts you have about that food, and about yourself when you are putting that food in has a far more profound effect on you.

Gillian Mckeith would say its not the food you put in you that causes a reaction... it is more what your body is able to absorb successfully... a lifetime of bad diet can lead to very serious problems with absorption of the things we need to live healthily...these have to be rectified by taking in foods and water that doesn't add to the problem but contributes to its solution. What you said about what we are thinking though is something I will have to take on board and any light you can shed on this will be welcome.

Let me ask you a 'simple' question... Do you believe you are a 'creator' of you own universe or merely a pawn within it?

It depends which mind in me has the upper hand (forgive the mixed metaphors....
I was nearly a 100% pawn until about two years ago.... since then I have been steadily coming into my own as a co-creator....
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[carmaela11]

An interesting thing happened to me a year and a half ago. I started getting nauseated when I would eat meat and other low energy and overly processed foods. I began craving more fresh, green foods and beets and lemons. At about the same time, I had two trips to the ER, which resulted in me finding out my gallbladder was full of stones. I then found out through researching their cause, that beets and lemons thin the bile and help dissolve gallstones and are good liver tonics. I mean, I would literally smell the lemons at the produce section before I would turn the corner to find them. It's like my body just knew what it needed. Also, at the time a friend of mine wanted to try vegetarianism and to support her, I tried it too. I was vegetarian for eight months. I eventually allowed myself fish and occasionally fowl. Since my start at vegetarianism began, I have noticed changes not only in my energy and emotions but in other ways too. I do feel that when I avoid processed foods and even meat, that I can think more clearly and see energy fields better. I believe that everyone and the environment can benefit greatly if everyone would try vegetarianism and at the very least take in less junk and less meat. I do eat fish and fowl, as I said, because instinctively, I feel that I need a good amount of B vitamins as I have stresses at being a mom and such and they are good for your nervous system and energy and metabolism. I try to abstain from too much dairy as gallstones can come from too much cholesterol in the diet. Being vegetarian has given me much in that I appreciate so many foods now that I used to overlook because it was pounded into my head that meat had to be the main part of a meal. I have come to understand that this isn't true and unless you are an athlete or bodybuilder or trainer that requires more protein. Most people need less than they think. I am also more sensitive to the energies in foods. Some days, a piece of chicken feels right and I feel like I need it and on others I see it as merely dead flesh and the smell turns me off.
I listen to these clues and go with what intuitively feels right. I always feel better eating FRESH foods. If it is orange juice, it has to not be from concentrate, if it's a tomato it is better from my own garden. I love spinach and asparagus and other greens too. I try to get what is in season. It makes a difference. Trust me!
Sometimes I do allow my energy to get low and allow external influences like job stresses, and such get me down. I notice that it is these times, when I end up eating bad processed foods. A few things happen here:
1. I feel worse
2. Foods that once tasted good now taste like crap, are too sweet, too salty or I get a headache from MSG
3. Feeling, drained, bloated and tired from eating quick, processed meals and snacks makes me want to eat something fresh like a pear, or some carrots.
4. As soon as I eat fresh stuff again, I am reminded of why I enjoy doing it - IT MAKES ME FEELS SOOOOO MUCH BETTER!

I haven't had any more gallbladder issues either.
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[enlightenmentlover]

I haven't done a ton of research on food, and I don't know a lot about food, however... Dr Oz briefly(and I'm not sure he was comfortable saying it) called parsley a living food. Based on that, and what I've read on some packages, RAW food's sometimes considered living food(just don't expect it to talk to you like in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy)

I also have some info I can feed you based on personal experience. Last month, I had a meal with a boneless chicken breast, and I felt so bad after eating it, I've eaten Beegan food for about a month now. While I've yet to go RAW, due to the fact that it's been about a month since eating (mostly)beegan food, I've noticed I feel loads better.

Hope my reply is (somewhat)helpful for you.

[Inedible]

Before becoming concerned about your pH in terms of diet and water, you could start by getting some litmus strips and checking yourself to see if you are already alkaline. I bought some a while back from a place that was talking about becoming alkaline and found that all I had to do was add a calcium / magnesium / zinc supplement to my diet. Already being vegetarian helped.

[Silent Watcher]