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sparky
Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 12 Location: North Florida
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:40 am Post subject: |
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Synchronistic Flow-What is the first and foremost key to staying in that flow? Or are there many keys? What is your favorite?
Honestly, knowing if I am in the flow of synchronicity or simply being insane is difficult for me to seperate at times. In finding Cark Jung's term Apophenia and knowing how close it is to schizophrenia really worries me when I feel "in Sync."
Also knowing a term Gary Zukav uses "Devine Schizophrenia" and knowing for some of us that are not "integrated" are manifesting on many different levels, not just the conscious level.
Saying that I suppose doing the work of discovery concerning my "control drama" and letting it go as I do, as I learn how to do..which seems to be never ending...having a nervous breakthrough seem to help me learn alot in regards to taking it easy,learning to breathe, learning to self-regulate the internal pharmacy,connecting with other is the "know" helps and for me learning about Inner Child work, learning to love myself and others.
As Tony A. (founder of adult children of alcoholics) said something he learned from The Kahuna Religeon,"There is a conditional love, if Big Tony does not learn to love little Tony, the Big Kahuna Love for Tony can not be felt."
As I learn to take care of me everything else seems to be in sychronicity more often but it does cylce a whole lot, which I think is also a natural flow of things too...grabbing hold ...letting go..in..out as the tides etc...
Lots of keys for me currenty. My favorite is simply breathing correctly and staying in close touch with my inner life and with nature!
As I am getting in sync doing inner child work, learning about my "control dramas" growing up some etc.. coincidently I found the organization:
Adult Children of Alcoholic/Dysfunctional Families came out with a text , in 2006 sometime soon after another coincidence, I found the Insights.
adultchildren.org website may be helpful for others on a similiar path, please be careful, I wish I had been more careful and less naive'
Buyer beware, I found that organization/website and ACA World Service Office (currently about 8 people) and all 12 step recovery may attract "dysfunctional" people and have lots of their own growing to do before they get in sync Although I can Love them they have a saying in ACA "Name It don't balme it."
Perhaps my showing up there and finally slowly but surely learning to use my voice, my "own"opinions was part of their synchronicity too.
As with learning about Carl Jungs term there is also a collective un-conscious, "groupthink" type thing I need to alway be aware of. I am learning discernement and to trust my own intuitions, getting in sync. by doing the work of over coming my "control drama"integrating to wholeness etc...
As in sync. with the Insights, Echart Tolles saying in his book "One with what is within and without" is my goal.
I think coming up against this current ACA WSO dysfunction was also very syncronistic too as I have heard many say as concerning another control drama:
"If I don't want to be a door mat I have to get up off the floor" I wish it were not so, but I also fully agree "Pain is the touchstone of spirtual growth" and "neurosis is the avoidance of legetimate pain."
I have watched this movie a couple of times. the first time my children watched it too but I got it for "me". The second time"coincidently" as I was sort of loving another, giving them energy I got the movie for "them" to watch and then shortly found this forum, I know I checked the web for Celestine Info. when I watched it the first time and did not find this site, but then the second time when I shared this movie I did. Hmmm.
Growing Pains are good but...can I just stay ALOOF a little tiny bit longer,please:?: _________________ "Coincidences are the proof of the existence of God" Carl Jung |
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littlebird
Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 344 Location: Florida
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:51 pm Post subject: Hi Sparky |
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Hi and thank you for the timely message this morning.
Mmnn....Maybe it IS good to learn how to gently step out of the flow at times. For some reflection and understanding. To take care of one's spirit and renewal.
I find myself wanting to detach from dysfunction even when it is IN MY FACE! A kind of rapid riping through the peaceful flow. Then is the time to enjoy a little rest along the banks of the river.
Peace to you,
littlebird _________________ God is Love |
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Horus
Joined: 01 Dec 2007 Posts: 44 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Well, to me syncronicity happens all the time...the only problem is understanding that this is a syncronicity and that isn't.
A little example, today I had a car accident, lately my toughts have been around an accident I had exactlly a year ago. Just before I crashed the freeway (motorway) got clear of cars, I stopped finding any cars at all!!! I tought, this is odd, what's happening? then...bhaa probably everyone is scared of the rain! and minutes later I lost control of the car and crashed sideways into a wall facing the upcoming traffic wich was none, because there was no cars (wich was good afterall) so I manage to get to the nearest exit and examine the car properly wich turned out that the damage wasn't so bad.
My point is, there is this strange feeling when we are on the flow that we can only understand it later (at least with me), it's like when your conscious part is on stanby, and then you really listen to your inner being, today I realized something was up but I didn't knew what, so I carried on and found it minutes later...
PS: By the way, I haven't been on this forum for some time and I just realized that my signature (Forever trust in who we are...) has been on my head this week, didn't knew exactly why!? funny isn't it? _________________ Forever trust in who we are... |
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beautifulsoul
Joined: 28 Jan 2010 Posts: 7 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:17 am Post subject: |
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If I could master keeping in the flow always I would do it.... When im in sync I practice practice practice. I read, join forums with like mind people , meditate, get in touch with nature all the wonderful things that make me feel 'tuned in' and in control. Its when I fight the synchronicity flow that I fall off the wagon so to speak and end up swimming up stream against the current. I always find my way back and am getting better at it and doing it less now so I am learning to stay in the flow... I don't think it happens immediately forever it takes practice... If you fall of the horse you'll get back on when it's time and so on.
I read The first book 2 years ago when my marriage break up occured, I passed it on and have read various books in the meantime such as Eckhart Tolles collection, Louise Hayes, and M. Scott Peck to name a few and they have all inspired my spiritual growth.
When you let it go and allow the universe to conspire to make things happen for you as they are meant to I find there is no battle, just paitence in giving away the control to a higher self. If you use your thoughts in a manner that is going to create positive energy that is simply what you will attract and will keep you in the flow. I find for me as soon as a negative energy comes into my life I feel the draining and have on many occassions allowed that to happen by staying around that energy. It's a yukky feeling being drained and when Im in high spirits and living in the consciousness that I strive to be in always, its easy to just smile and let that negative energy flow on by without allowing myself to be drained.
After writing all of this its becoming clear to me why I do not always stay in the flow.... Coincidence? Thanks James
Love, light and wisdom xOx |
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Water Master
Joined: 02 Dec 2006 Posts: 22 Location: Home
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:08 am Post subject: |
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keeping in the flow
keep breathing.
master that then youre fine _________________ 8th insight never changes |
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Scots_Nomad
Joined: 18 Aug 2009 Posts: 36
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:45 pm Post subject: Going with the flow.... |
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In my posts under ‘Shared Insights/Parallel Paths’ I discussed how (whilst writing my first book back in 2005) as soon as I heard that there was a hurricane called Katrina forming off the coast of Florida I had been able to predict - in a series of emails whose date and contents can still be scientifically verified - that Katrina would become one of the biggest hurricanes to ever hit the USA and that it would hit and flood New Orleans and how, on the day that Katrina eventually did flood New Orleans, I had also predicted that within a few weeks a hurricane called Rita would do the same thing.
Any of you who read the short story of mine which I linked to under the ‘Insights to the Future/Three Days From Yesterday’ topic should understand how I knew that two category five hurricanes were going to flood New Orleans in fairly quick succession, as that short story details a long conversation I had had with ‘my friends’ one year earlier in which they had very deliberately guided the conversation onto that particular disaster scenario (along with a number of others, including a massive tsunami in SE Asia), but that short story didn’t fully explain how I knew that Katrina would be the first of those catastrophic storms. In effect, the conversation in that short story was just one piece of a jigsaw puzzle which my friends left me to solve for myself – they let me know what was going to happen and where, but I had to work out the ‘when’ for myself by putting that info together with other pieces of their jigsaw puzzle.
The extract below comes from that book I was writing back in 2005 when Katrina struck and I’m posting it here because it describes my experiences of what this topic describes as ‘synchronistic flow’. The extract details a part of our conversation in which I explain how I first became aware of that ‘flow’, how I know if I am going with the flow, and what I do when I find I am trying to go against the flow, however it also contains the part of the jigsaw I needed to enable me to predict that Hurricane Katrina (and its waves) would flood New Orleans back in 2005.
(NB: Before this part of our chat I was discussing a special edition fifty pence coin with the image of nine inter-linked hands which the UK issued back in 1973 to commemorate Britain joining the European Economic Community):
…"So why is the coin special to you?"
"The hands would be symbolic for lots of reasons. Sometimes recently I’ve felt as though everybody's hands were pushing me and pushing me all of the time, even when all I wanted was ten minutes to rest and think about things, or some times I felt as though nine hands were working against me and I only had two to fight back with, but at other times when I seemed to be on the right track to something, I felt like there were invisible hands sorting things out in front of me and other invisible hands pushing me gently along at just the pace I wanted to be moving."
"Yeah, that was us."
"What? To use a song theme here, are you telling me that you were 'the wind beneath my wings’?"
"Yeah, you’re our hero but we were the wind beneath your wings when we could be. So would you say that was the best way to describe that feeling to others?"
"Well, I suppose that song covers a bit of the feeling, because I certainly noticed that sometimes the wind always seemed to be on my back no matter how many corners I turned, but there was more to it than that and the changing wind wasn't the strangest thing about the feeling I’m talking about ‘cause I know that buildings create swirling winds so I realised there could have been some logical explanation for that."
"So what was the strangest thing?"
"The sun!”
“So what was so strange about the sun?”
“Well, the first time I really noticed the feeling I’m talking about here was a few weeks ago. I was trying to get everything organised so I could book my ticket back to the UK to see my brother and I had gone into town with a mental list of about half a dozen things I needed to get sorted, but it was one of those days when it seemed like everything that could go wrong did go wrong. The shops I wanted to go to were all shut for some reason or another or they were open but no one spoke a word of English and they seemed determined to misinterpret everything I tried to ask for, then I went to a travel agents to check on tickets and after spending about half an hour trying to explain what I was looking for their computer system crashed just as they were checking it out, then another travel agent took all my details and asked to come back after half an hour but when I went back the girl who had been dealing with me had disappeared so I had to go through it all again and then come back another half an hour later and when I went back for the second time they had forgotten to do anything about it so I just gave up on them. Then I had gone to a bank to try to sort out a safe deposit box which just turned into a nightmare – one bank directed me to another who directed me to a third who directed me to their top floor who directed me back to the ground floor who directed me to another bank who directed me back to the bank I had started off at! It was a nightmare! I had been walking around in circles for hours and hadn’t got a single thing sorted out. My feet were absolutely killing me – I had the most horrendous corns I had ever seen on both of my feet and even at the best of times it felt like I was walking on broken glass, sweat was dripping off me and running into my eyes because the sun was blazing down on my back, the wind was blowing dust in my eyes and I was so tired that I felt I couldn’t take another step, so I just stopped and said ‘Fuck it! I’m going to the pub for a beer and something to eat!’. I turned around and suddenly everything seemed to change…”
“Go On.”
“Well, instead of having to fight against the wind and the dust the breeze now seemed to be cooling me down and helping me along my way, and instead of having the sun beat down on my back it was now on my face, but it wasn't in my eyes and it wasn't too hot like it had been, it was just perfectly as I would have wanted it. The breeze behind me took away all of the effort of walking to the extent that I completely forgot how sore my feet were, and the sun on my face felt so good that I just closed my eyes and lapped it up. I suddenly felt so good that it was almost like I was floating towards the pub! Then I came to a corner where I had to turn left – I was feeling so good that I actually thought about just carrying on and taking the next corner even though it would have doubled the distance I had to walk but I decided against that and took the first corner. I had expected both the sun and the breeze to disappear when I turned that corner but I was surprised to find that they were still there – the wind was still on my back and the sun was still pleasantly on my face. About a hundred yards later I had to turn left again – again I braced myself for both the sun and the breeze leaving me, but once again they both seemed to turn the corner with me! That was when it struck me that something weird was happening. I could kind of understand how the wind could follow me around corners, because wind can swirl around buildings, but I could never work out what the sun was doing."
"Did you try to?"
"I had had my eyes all but shut for most of the time coz the sun felt so good on my face. Obviously I had opened them enough to see where I was going and to make sure I didn’t bump into anyone, but I didn’t have to look up to see where the sun was – I could feel where it was. When I turned the first corner I was pleasantly surprised that the sun was still on my face, but I had only turned ninety degrees so it didn’t strike me as being particularly strange, but when I turned the next corner and it was still on my face it did strike me as being weird so at that point I did look up specifically to see where the sun was but it was exactly where I expected it to be – high in the sky in front of me. It didn’t make much sense to me but I wasn’t complaining and I certainly had no intention of retracing my footsteps to try and work things out – the sun and the breeze were still helping me towards where I wanted to go and that was all that really mattered to me at the time.”
“So the sun was the strangest thing about that day then?”
“Well the sun was the strangest physical thing about that day, but maybe the strangest thing of all was the fact that even though I had decided to give up on all the things I had been trying to arrange that day and just go to the pub instead, I still somehow got everything sorted with practically no effort at all.”
“How did you manage that?”
“Me? I hardly did anything! At one point I was telling one of my friends in the bar about the hassles I had had with travel agents and he asked me if I had tried the shop next door to the pub, as he had used them before and found them very good. Although the pub was my regular haunt and I had been there many (many) times before, I almost always went in the evening when the shops were shut so I had never actually noticed that the shop right next door was a travel agent – at one point in the afternoon I popped next door to the travel agent and they managed to sort out all my travel arrangements in about five minutes without any hassle at all. Then later in the afternoon I was chatting to someone else in the bar who I had known for two years and I discovered for the first time that he was a director of a freight forwarding company who could not only arrange to store all my belongings for me while I was in the UK, but could also arrange for a group of his workers to come to my house and do all my packing up for me, and to top it all off, while I was in the bar I realised that I didn’t actually need the safe deposit box that I had gone to so much effort to try to arrange earlier. What I had wanted to store there was a back-up copy of the manuscript of a book I had been working on – not only was it very private to me but I had put so much time and effort into it that I didn’t want to risk anything happening to my laptop when I went to the UK. Sticking a back-up copy into a safe deposit box for a few weeks had seemed like the simplest solution but while I was sitting in the bar that day I realised that by emailing a copy of it to myself I could not only keep my work private and safe, but would also have the back up copy available to me in the UK if the worst did come to the worst. Hey Presto! After all my fruitless efforts that morning I had managed to solve all my problems while having an enjoyable afternoon in the pub with my mates! That was the first time it happened but there have been a few other days since then when at one point it felt like the whole world was conspiring to stop me doing what I wanted to do, but instead of trying to fight against it I have just changed direction and tried to do something else and all of a sudden it felt like things were magically falling into place for me. It’s happened so often now that I don’t even try to fight it anymore, if I am trying to do something and it seems like I’m having more trouble than I should be I just leave it aside and try doing something else. It’s a strange feeling but I have no idea how to put all that into words."
"Well, if we are staying with song themes, could you maybe say that it was like walking on sunshine?"
"Yeah! That’s exactly how I would have put it if I had thought of if!...Katrina and the Waves, by the way!"
"Is that song special to you?"
"Not really. I think I've got it on vinyl back in the UK - if my sister is still looking after my old records for me. The song was OK, but it was nothing particularly special to me, I just bought it coz I was DJing at the time it was out."
"So why would we bring that particular song up?"
"Who knows? You said it, maybe you are a big fan of Katrina and the Waves."
(Huge burst of applause! So loud and unexpected that it confused me for a minute)
"Will you remember exactly what you just said?"
"About you being a big fan of Katrina and the waves?"
"Yeah! In fact you could say that we are THE big fan of Katrina and the Waves. Will you remember that?"
"Well, I suppose that now you have made such a fuss about it I will probably remember it whenever I hear the song."
"What if you only hear the name of the band?"
"Well, they are one hit wonders so I guess that the name of the band will remind me of that particular song, which in turn will remind me of what you said."
"So you think Katrina and the Waves is always going to be just a one hit wonder?"
"Who knows, it was a decent song and it gets things going in summer time, so maybe Katrina could become a two-hit wonder."
"Will you remember that?"
"I would remember it better if you told me what you are talking about."
"You will understand when you hear the name again."
"Well OK, if you say so…but don't you still owe me a pound?" |
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Wizard
Joined: 07 Dec 2009 Posts: 10 Location: Greece, Athens
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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I try to do a lot of things from all the information from James Redfield and his books, my "teacher" and other sources ... I also like the following:
1) I try to ask this question to myself all the time (especially when I am going to do something) " Is this going to make me happier?"
2) I also try to make all but all the time everyday all day the question to myself.. "Who am I?"
3) I am telling myself everyday in the bus at home wherever I am "I am a success".
4) Trying not to judge people for what they are or for their behavior/actions (whatever) and understand that every person deserves love and understanding even if this person is mean to me or has bad behaviour. The best I can do is to "send him light" to imagine him that our relationship can be better or even perfect. Of course I have my bounds and I protect myself with my behaviour but also I try to understand others' feelings and have patience.
5) I try not to have expectations when planning something or in a relationship but "leave" it to the universe. Of course I take action because it is necessary. I try not to have expectations from others but try to "accept" him/her to love him/her for what he/she is and not for what I would like him/her to be.
6) Forgive.....I have done great job here and I think forgiveness is like climping a mountain and carrying lets say many many heavy things with you. You won't climb if you don't let them away. You will fall exhausted. If you let them go you are so light and climping is just a matter of time.
7) I am trying to understand that everything happens for a reason and when something goes "wrong" I turn the head to see the right side of the "wrong" situation. And I know that ALWAYS there is a lesson and that is magical for me.
My belief and philosophy in life is something that great Louise Hay said:
We are RESPONSIBLE for 100% of what happening in our lifes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I konw that these information cannot be count and they are not a recipe. There are so many things ... I just wrote some thoughts...
I am very happy that I can do most of these things. I wasn't used to it. I know I can do better but I am very happy that I am in the flow.
James Redfield you helped a lot with the information you wrote on your books!!!!!! Celestine prophecy (the trilogy and especially the 9 insights-first book) is my FAVOURITE BOOK EVER amongst psycology, philosophy,literature everything. Thank you for that gift!!!!!!!!!! _________________ Maybe tomorrow I'll never sing again
but I'll remember when
it was the first time to be in love |
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ChrisinPA
Joined: 08 Jun 2010 Posts: 3 Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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How would someone perceive coincidences? For example, is it a coincidence that one would be recruited to join a certain "group" over another "group?"
After reading the chapter regarding coincidences, it struck me and I've been thinking about it ever since. I'm wondering if it's bad/negative energy or it truly is telling me something?
I guess to make a long story short, I had an oppurtunity to do something and I hoped on it. After I did it, (if I stayed where I was and not hope on the oppurtunity) 2 "spots" opened up and they were filled. And in the past couple months, I've been told that I'm being "recruited" to fill a "spot" when it next opens up. However, in order to do so, I need to "join" "group a" and leave "group b."
Any info/help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!  |
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Blackstone01
Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Posts: 7
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: Perceiving Synchronicity |
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| James Redfield wrote: | One of the things we've been doing is visiting churches and other groups talking about the way the insights all come together into one consciousness. That by the way is a new level I believe we are reaching world wide, the 12th insight: integrating it all into what I think of as a synchronistic flow. I'd like to pose an open poll question. What is the first and foremost key to staying in that flow? Or are there many keys? What is your favorite?
Also those of you are entering as quests. If you register we can notify you when there is a new discussion topic |
From my point of view, once one is "awakened" to Spiritual Reality, walking away is not possible. We are created by Spiritual Reality and, for the most part, always exists there. Life throws us for a "loop" from time to time, but no matter what, losing sight of what is Real is rather difficult.
From what I've experienced, most people that make the transition from physical with a spirit to Spirit in a body, tend to go into Spiritual service of others. That includes healers, herbalists, humanitarians, etc. The recognition of Spirituality as Reality, tends to keep the healers and others, always focused on Spiritual Reality even through places where we feel "blocked", "closed off", or "lost". What that means is, even with those feelings, the focus of the individual is still looking into Spiritual Reality for the answers and not paying attention to the physical realm around us. |
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