Prophecy of the Rattlesnake,Cherokee Prophecies

[sparky]

Yesterday was 12/21/09 mabye we will know more by 12/21/12 maybe we already know all we need to know. I did enjoy the Nostradomous (sp?)documentary I rented from the Redbox.

2012: doom or gloom a rebirth or reawkening etc...regardless it will be a major "astrological event" that has been well studied for a long,long time by many different people. NASA has lots to say about the astrological weather in late 2011.

Here is another Cherokee point of view:

Cherokee Prophecies

Cherokee Star Constellation - Prophecy of the Rattlesnake
The Stars above and its configurations hold TIME UNTIME within its grasp upon all life. As all cultures sustain a Zodiac system written upon Time Untime so also the Chickamaugan Cherokee of the Americas hold also an Ancient Zodiac of the heavens.

Within the Zodiac of the Heavens of the Chickamauga Cherokee are etched Ancient designs written upon and within the lines of seeing. The Cherokee Zodiac is alive and moves and spins upon the rings of TIME UNTIME. As the main outline remains its hold and is stationed in the sky of stars its movement within that frozen outline does indeed change with the movements of the other elements. Elements within the rotations planets, stars, and bodies of the heavens. As other cultures station their Zodiac as a permanent fixture the Cherokee Zodiac morphs or changes and becomes as if ALIVE. Always Alive, breaths, lives, and takes upon each constellation its own deeming of things, Time, Untime, and among those things, Prophecy.

The Constellations of the Chickamaugan Cherokee are 13 fold which contain the characterizations of mainly animals. Among the many design configurations seen written upon the stars are the designs of animals, objects, and many other elements of TIME UNTIME. The figures of the sky are totally different from other cultures of the Zodiac except for a rare few which seem to be similar. The only one which seems to relative to similarity is found within the Cherokee Constellation Scorpion and Snake and this in relation to others as Scorpio and Serpent.

This is the story of only one of those constellations. This is of the Cherokee Constellation Rattlesnake. And within this one Constellation is found a PROPHECY. Within the Rattlesnake of the Heavens is found TIME UNTIME foretold since the dawn of TIME.

In the sky is found the figure of a Snake. And upon this snake it is the outline of a Rattlesnake. Sometimes the Serpent and the Rattlesnake take on its bearing of one or the other but the Snake of the Rattlesnake is ITS design.

The Cherokee Rattlesnake Constellation is not like other cultures of the world. The Cherokee Rattlesnake in the Heavens has a head and winds itself back and forth with its body as in sidewinding itself to its tail. The boundary of the Rattlesnake is unlike the boundaries of other Zodiac cultures. In the Heavens the Pleiades Star System is found as the tip of the Rattlesnake tail.

The Rattlesnake of the Cherokee is very sacred and its sacredness is written even in the Heavens. Upon the mouth of the Rattlesnake is found 52 scales. These scales in number of 52 is written upon the Calendar of the Cherokee and upon the wheels and rings of TIME UNTIME. The Calendar of the Cherokee spins upon wheels and rings as a sophisticated dating system. A dating system that not only tells TIME of events, people, places, and things but also a very holy and sacred element within the Cherokee culture itself of ALL THINGS.

The Rattlesnake can sometimes be imaged as a serpent. To be a Serpent or to be the Rattlesnake depends on the knowing of the TIMES and TIMES of TIME UNTIME. To know the culture of the Cherokee and its Ancient design upon LIFE. One MUST know the things of TIME UNTIME in order to place the constellation as a Rattlesnake or a Serpent. But this is another story.

The stationary outline is always of the Rattlesnake. However upon the wheels of the Cherokee calendar is also found when where how what who in its changing and transformation. The transformation is not the changing of the shape of the Rattlesnake but the addition or subtraction of elements upon the snake itself. These things also tell the tales of the universe and all its bearing of what was, what is, and to be.

On the Cherokee Calendar a great thing is foretold of things about to take shape within all things upon the earth, the heavens, and the universe. And the Rattlesnake Constellation is one of those which speaks as a voice of TIME UNTIME of things to be.

Upon the Cherokee Calendar Rings and written in the Star Constellation Rattlesnake is a prophecy of TIME UNTIME.

And so it is thus foretold ....

When the Earth sees the fingers of Spearfinger strike Jupiter, when the ages of the Rings and wheels tell it is the ending of the ages of cycles of 5, this will be the sign for the whole earth, for all the earth will see this thing, to wake up from sleep. These fingers that stuck Jupiter was the comet fragments that hit Jupiter in the 1990s and the whole earth took of is majesty. This was the sign foretold on the Calendar for the Cherokee people to WAKE UP to come out of sleep.

The Cherokee Calendar also speaks its voice telling that at this time of the fingers striking Jupiter that Orion Star System will awaken. And the Pleiades and Orion will war once again as in old. Jupiter and Venus will awaken to its destiny of TIME UNTIME of cycles. Orion will WAR with Pleadies, Jupiter will WAR with Venus. The time of the Cherokee UKU's will be at hand.

In the year 2004 and 2012 an alignment will take place both on the Cherokee Calendar and in the heavens of the Rattlesnake Constellation both. It is the time of the doublehead serpent stick. It is the time of the Red of Orion and Jupiter against White Blue of Pleadies and Venus. It is the time of the Uku's choosing. It is the time of the Beloved Woman and MYSTERIES OF TIME UNTIME. It is the Time Untime of the THUNDERBOLT and the spirits of Lightning Mountains.

In the year 2004 and 2012 the Cherokee Rattlesnake Constellation will take on a different configuration. The Snake itself will remain, however, upon the Rattlesnake shall be added upon its head feathers, its eyes will open and glow, wings spring forth as a winged Rattlesnake, it shall have hands and arms and in its hands shall be found a bowl. The bowl will hold blood. Upon its tail of 7 rattles shall be the glowing and movement of Pleiades.

The Rattlesnake shall become a FEATHERED RATTLESNAKE or FEATHERED SERPENT of TIME UNTIME.

And upon the Rattlesnake is also the Milky Way. A crossing of the Milky Way shall be seen at these times.

For the center of the Universe is what many know as the Constellation Sagittarius by modern man. But upon this constellation of is also found the Pleiades Star system which is what is different in the boundary of others and the Cherokee Zodiac.

The Milky Way is ALSO a Tree ... STONE TREE. And upon Stone Tree is as a Tree with a tree trunk, branches, a top, and even roots. The Flower and the Tree is also a tassel as corn. And upon the flower and the tree is the TREE OF LIFE. REBIRTH, RENEWAL, NEW.

And the Cherokee Calendar shall end in the year 2012. But upon the times just prior shall be the Feathered Serpent and its prophecy.

Upon the Heavens design, within the Cherokee Rattlesnake Constellation, it is written. And upon the Rings of TIME UNTIME of the Cherokee Calendar it also says BEHOLD RATTLESNAKE CONSTELATION. And Remember.

The Rings of the Cherokee Calendar are read by the winding motion of the Rattlesnake. To Add or to subtract TIME UNTIME. To MOVE the Wheels backward or forward, to add a wheel to move the rings, to tell the tale what was, what is, and to be. The Rattlesnake and it design tells the movement of the RINGS OF TIME.

And in the sky heavens the motions of the movement of stars, planets, and life tell the tale of its bearing. For all is as the winding of the Rattlesnake. And in the year 2004 the Morning Star shall be first and in the year 2012 the Evening Star shall be first. And upon those years the crown of the Feathered Serpent shall bear its colors and honor. The hands shall hold the bowl and the tail shall be as the roots of a Tree, The Pleaides Tree of the beginning.

And in the Year 2004 and 2012 shall be the TIME UNTIME of the Feathered Serpent of the Sky Heavens. And the Rings shall turn upon those years of prophecy foretold on the Rings of TIME UNTIME. And Ywahoo Falls Kentucky shall sing of Venus and the Feathered Rattlesnake.

For this is not all the prophecy not all the things thereof. For if it was meant for one to know and I give only part, then you have received a great gift. For if I tell all and it was not meant for one to know then I have waisted my breath. For this is a sacred thing, the Venus Alignment and the Feathered Serpent of the Heavens.

And in the Year 2012 the Cherokee Calendar Ends. And all is reborn. For the Feathered Rattlsnake comes and shall be seen in the heavens in the year 2004 to 2012.

In the south of the americas ... it is related as the coming of Quetzalcoatl. The Ancient Cherokee relate it as the coming of the Pale One once again.

The Rattlesnake Constelation shall appear with the Venus Alignment. The Stars of the Heavens of the Cherokee Zodiac, the Rings of the Calendar, and The Venus Alignment tell the story of a Chickamaugan Prophecy. For they all are aligned in the year 2004 to 2012

http://www.crystali nks.com/cherokee .html
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"Coincidences are the proof of the existence of God" Carl Jung

[eaglesoul]

Tks Sparky ...great addition, I feel Cherokee energy very close to my heart too, love the Cherokee Feast of days...great wisdom, beautiful and powerful prophecy, this one.
I did work the 9 insights for the 1st time , many yrs ago while living in Cherokee county...must mean something.
May u have a great yr
Namaste
P

[sparky]

HI again,

I JUST posted at Engtovo's site

http://spiritnexus.org/2009/11/08/the-6th-night-other-important-dates-for-late-09/#comment-10165

I hope nobody thinks I am cross polinating websites, I do like Engtovo alot as I DO THIS WEBSITE.

AND waiting for MORE INFO ON THE The Pleaides Tree or just even the Pleades...SHE IS USUALLY VERY REPONSIVE and fast to do so. I LOVE THE INFO BUT GET LOTS OF HEADACHES FOLLOWING ALL THIS.

My intuition tells me 2012 is real not doom and gloom but an awakening and Earthlings need to wake up A.S.A.P., SADLY like they say in 12 step recoverysometimes hitting bottom first is the only thing to wake someone up.

In some religious teaching they say at the end many will just die of fear...perhaps the ones so addicted to their electroin instruments...that will die without them. Less than 3 years and counting....

Peace,
Sparky
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"Coincidences are the proof of the existence of God" Carl Jung

[sparky]

Native American Myth: The Origin of the Pleiades and the Pine Trees (Cherokee)
Long ago, when the world was new, there were seven boys who used to spend all their time down by the townhouse playing the gatayu'sti, rolling a stone wheel along the ground and sliding a curved stick after it. They did not do their chores, especially weeding the gardens. Their mothers scolded them but it did no good, so one day they collected some gatayu'sti stones and boiled them with the corn for dinner. When the boys came home hungry, their mothers dipped out the stones for them and said, "Since you like the gatayu'sti better than the cornfield, take the stones for your dinner."

The boys were very angry and went down to the townhouse, saying, "Since our mothers treat us this way, let us go where we shall never trouble them any more." They began a dance - some say it was the Feather Dance - and went round and round the townhouse, praying to the spirits to help them. At last their mothers were afraid something was wrong and went out to look for them. They saw the boys still dancing around the townhouse, and as they watched they noticed that their feet were off the ground, and that with every round they rose higher and higher into the air. They ran to get their children but it was too late, for they were already above the roof of the townhouse. One mother managed to pull her son down with a gatayu'sti pole, but he struck the ground with such force that he sank into it and the earth closed over him.

The other six boys circled higher and higher until they went up to the sky where we see them now as the Pleiades cluster, which the Cherokee still call Ani'tsutsa (the boys). The people grieved for them for a long time. The mother whose boy had gone into the ground came every morning and every evening to cry over the spot until the ground was damp with her tears. At last a little green shoot sprouted up and grew day by day until it became the tall tree which we now call the pine. This is why the pine grows straight up towards the stars, and why the seventh star in the Pleiades cluster is fainter than the other six.

by Mary Lou West

Reference: James Mooney, "Myths of the Cherokee", Smithsonian Institution, 19th Annual Report of American Ethnology 1897-98, New York, 1970 (E 99.C5 M763 1970)


http://pages.csam.montclair.edu/~west/pleiadesmyths.html

How exacly this is all connected to the astrology of 2012 is beyond me I AM LEARNING mythology is important.

Sparky
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"Coincidences are the proof of the existence of God" Carl Jung

[eaglesoul]

mmm boys will always be boys, ah?
Yes , mythology IS key....tks...quite a tale...
meaning? wait to get that answer... in my experience the Universe always answers my questions...when it is the one that corresponds , of course.
Namaste