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Theressa
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 Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:47 am Post subject: Control drama challenge 2 |
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I am starting this thread because Mark/MM2's message has prompted some questions and queries for me about our healthy role.
For years I was co-dependent and concerned with sorting others lives out. Then I took my reiki attunements up 3rd degree and learnt that my role is to look at my patterns and conditioning as well as meditate. The idea is to transend to a more consciously aware state. Meditating can help us to be the witness to our patterns. This is also known as waking up. When we been to wake up we bring up patterns held deep in our cells. Life can get more chaotic. However, as we become more awake we can begin to handle our patterns instead of have them unconsciously handle us.
My hope is that we can query and share insights about this process.
So my questions and queries:
Is it my job to spend my energy on others lives constantly?
If I write posts from my own perspective and experience rather than thinking I can tell others how to live is this not effective?
I can only control myself so therefore if i work on my own life then i can be ONE example of ONE way to handle this process. Therefore, isn't it about finding our own way to go through the process?
How could my posts over recent months have been different?
In the past coming months I have been doing a lot of healing and thus lots of challenges have come to test me. Some of which I have posted here. I have learnt that the spiritual life is not all rosy. On here people only get to see one aspect of me. In other areas of my life I facilitate the growth of many others. However, I know i have my own stuff to process and so I do some of that here.
I welcome any feedback.
Love and light
Theressa |
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littlebird
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:49 pm Post subject: Control drama challenge 2 |
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Good morning Theressa,
I just love your simple passion about life! And see no need to analyze your posts, or try to make you more complicated than you really are. The tone of Mark's posts are the ones that seem to be self-righteous and arrogant, at least in my eyes. (intimidator/interrogator type)  
Love and Light,
Lisa
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Theressa
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:32 pm Post subject: Control drama challenge 2 |
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My shadow self:
This is the parts of me that I disowned long ago. I see them in others and get very angry. Why? because they are split off aspects of myself.
Am I self centred YES at times I am. Why? Because I have to work on my
patterns and master myself so that what i offer back to the whole is more
aware. I expand by discovering all aspects of me. Not by pretending that
I am only ever perfect. No I am learner. I am affected by events. I feed
my emotions with my thoughts. My job is to become self aware of the
process that is me. ALL of me including my shadow parts. Then I can
handle these parts of me such as ANGER and Self centredness in a way
that is within my control/in a way where I am conscious of my words,
actions and the thinking that fuels them. 
I could meditate forever but if i do not look at my psychological makeup
then I could still be an infant in my awareness and thus, what I offer the
whole. So I must face myself fully. I must not feel I must hide
who I am wholly because of rejection. I must make friends with the parts
of me that are ANGER and other disowned parts I was told weren't
approved as a child.
My thoughts, about my process.
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Doug.in.PA
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Theressa and Lisa,
Theressa, I'll just start by telling you that I appreciate your posts and the spirit of love and yet realness that I find in them.
As you say about meditation, perhaps it is time for me to return to witnessing the patterns that have developed within my experience. On to your queries... (just my own 2 cents here, of course):
| Quote: | | Is it my job to spend my energy on others lives constantly? |
It is if you know it is. For some, it is not.
| Quote: | | If I write posts from my own perspective and experience rather than thinking I can tell others how to live is this not effective? |
It may be effective, particularly if you and others share similar experiences or have similar ways of perceiving and understanding life. Some may have a gift of empathy, which may enable them to place themselves quite clearly in someone else's frame of reference, which gives them a special ability to advise others.
| Quote: | | I can only control myself so therefore if i work on my own life then i can be ONE example of ONE way to handle this process. Therefore, isn't it about finding our own way to go through the process? |
This is always about finding your own way to go through the process. For some, their own way may involve helping a number of others, but it is still their own way of going through the process. If it does not involve helping others much, that's just where you're at, and there is no right or wrong about it. Some are at a point at which they have much to give and a calling to serve others significantly. Others are at a point at which they are more in receive or learning mode. You are what you are. If you feel you need to change, and the feeling comes from your true self rather than from what you think society expects of you, then by all means move toward where your vision leads, whether it be altruistic or directed more inward.
Next post, you said,
| Quote: | | Am I self centred YES at times I am. Why? Because I have to work on my patterns and master myself so that what i offer back to the whole is more aware. |
As I was sort of saying above, it may be that you will not really have a lot to offer back to the whole at this moment. If that is the case, accept where you are in that, without feeling guilty about it. There is no universal law that you must at all times be offering something back to the whole, and anyone who thinks that there is doesn't really get it, as I understand this.
You said,
| Quote: | | I could meditate forever but if i do not look at my psychological makeup then I could still be an infant in my awareness and thus, what I offer the whole. |
I'm not sure if I know exactly what you mean by that, but in my own experience, I sort of "went elsewhere" quite a bit during meditation during a somewhat long period of time, but eventually became disheartened by the whole experience because I would always end up right back where I had been before beginning the meditation session. They were nice little trips, but didn't seem to be very helpful or productive in the end. But I do see the usefulness of other kinds of meditation.
Just my opinion, but Theressa, you're doing great - keep going.
As always, to anyone reading - if what I've said speaks to you, great, but always test and prove anything you hear. What do I know?  
Namaste',
Doug |
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Theressa
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:44 pm Post subject: Control drama challenge 2 |
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Hi Littlebird, Hi Doug,
Thank you little bird for seeing i am passionate about life.
Doug I seem to have missed something off my previous posting.
I facilitate the awareness of quite a few people. I however see the need to also look at my own patterns. I am currently supporting a lady who has been struggling quite a bit. However I also know that just as I support at times I need support. I come here to the celestine prophecy website and I share my process. In other areas of my life I support others processes. And as you say Doug empathise with others as I know how challenging life is.
What I also want to clarify is that the whole point of meditation is be able to step back and see oneself as a witness. Then one can then tweak their life patterns. However, one may meditate and miss the real purpose which is to tweak ones life patterns. As well as connecting to source.
I hope this clarifies what I mean. Its working on integration of the WESTS psychological development and the EASTS meditative practices and bringing them together.
Love and light
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Doug.in.PA
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Theressa,
Yeah - that's excellent! It doesn't have to be either/or - it can be both, and perhaps is best that way. You can give more when you keep receiving and learning more. The best teachers continue to learn more themselves as they teach.
- Doug |
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littlebird
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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You're welcome, Theressa,
I call em' like I see em'! But that's not to say I don't love you all. 
Lisa
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MM2
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| Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:48 am Post subject: The importance of "I" |
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Hey Theressa,
You took the title for the second control drama challenge! I think we will make the most of it!
Would you be interested in counting the number of times you put "my" or "I" in the 3 posts you made in this discussion topic so far?
No one is saying you can't express yourself from your point of view Theressa. You're doing a very good job of this, its just the other side of the equation that might need some work from where I'm standing these days.
Thanks for keeping the discussion alive and healthy.
Mark
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Theressa
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| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:54 pm Post subject: Control drama challenge 2 |
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Mark,
Please explain what you mean by the other side?
I will point out that I am other focused in lots of areas of my life. However, here I use this forum to look at my own patterns. For if I do
not work on my own self awareness how can I recognise others? I know you are trying to help me but I think maybe you misunderstand my purpose here.
Love and light
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